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Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Shane (IP Logged)
Date: 08 November, 2017 20:49

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Padre Pio
Even De Times has given up, when was he last here.

He delivered the most random insult I've ever seen last night by bumping a year-old thread to have a go at PK and call him a "sadist" for no reason (Sm6)

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 08 November, 2017 21:11

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Shane
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Padre Pio
Even De Times has given up, when was he last here.

He delivered the most random insult I've ever seen last night by bumping a year-old thread to have a go at PK and call him a "sadist" for no reason (Sm6)

DeTimes style!
(Sm22)

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 08 November, 2017 21:53

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Shane
Quote:
Padre Pio
Even De Times has given up, when was he last here.

He delivered the most random insult I've ever seen last night by bumping a year-old thread to have a go at PK and call him a "sadist" for no reason (Sm6)

Oh, you Irish daffodil, skipping and swishy-swashy here grinning smiley

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
Date: 08 November, 2017 22:32

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celine dion
I could write a f*cking book on this, I really could.

You should because it's bang on the money.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 08 November, 2017 23:44

Absolutely spot on celine.



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Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: nomi_gooner (IP Logged)
Date: 09 November, 2017 00:50

I have actually stopped watching. Just follow MOTD. Can't be ars.ed to watch full games with Arsene in charge. Feels like waste of time and it is very frustrating and redundant.

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: litmus (IP Logged)
Date: 09 November, 2017 04:42

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celine dion
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litmus
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celine dion
Does anyone on here genuinely give a f*ck about Arsenal any more?
I just cant see how anyone can.

Does anyone genuinely go to a game or turn on the TV and think 'Oh I really hope Arsenal win today?'

I can barely be bothered to watch more than about 20 minutes of any game and if I still lived in London I doubt I would go to any games at all.

What Wenger and the board have done to the club is a travesty, a disgrace. If you DO still feel interested in watching Arsenal, like the rest of us did in the old days, then why? Im honestly interested.



I tell you why. How can any true fan not "genuinely give a @#$%&" about his team? How can any true fan not want the team to win, even after losing 20 consecutive games? Yes, one can be flustered, frustrated, to the point of killing someone or themselves, but thats what being a fan is. Just like you Celine, I supported Arsenal since I was about 11, I am now 45. We didn't always win then, in fact we were 7th in the table when I first supported Arsenal (if I remember correctly). But I watched in a room full of Pool fans when Micheal Thomas scored that winning goal in 89.

Newcastle fans, Liverpool fans, Leeds fans, you see them all at their Stadiums year after year. I am sure they are frustrated, but approach each game, each season with optimism because that's what being a fan is all about. Even when Toon fans hate Ashley, is at war, they still cheer and shout their hearts out like a small kid supporting their school team, even after consecutive losses. Everton fans, the same I'm sure throughout this season. They might be frustrated with the team, management, manager, players, but they love the club.

Because we care so much is why we are still here, still complaining. I don't know about you but Arsenal is my life. I cannot not give a f*ck. Such as that I cannot even bring myself to play another team on Fifa on my Xbox (before it got busted). I will never support another team. If Arsenal cease to exist, I'll stop watching the Premier League, and maybe begin watching Ligue One as a neutral.

You're sort of missing my point though. Yes Everton fans and Newcastle fans might be upset about things or whatever, but their clubs actively change the landscape in terms of ownership and management on regular occasions. Its the fact that Arsenal are being run as a business at the expense of any kind of sporting excitement that has got people like me and quite a lot of other people on here, not giving a flying f*ck what they actually do on the pitch. If Everton had been being managed by, say, David Moyes for 20 years and for the last 15 finished in exactly the same league position whilst showing exactly the same tactical deficiencies whilst their board kept telling them they had never had it so good, whilst hiking the prices up, with all their best players leaving the club, and Moyes talking absolute f(king nonsense to the point that he had become a global laughing stock, then I suspect the same malaise may occur at Goodison Park. But other clubs dont do this, they are in a state of flux, upwards or downwards, and generally speaking they set short term sporting objectives (if you're in the top 6 you try and get in the top 4 the following season, that sort of thing) and then if you dont achieve them, they change the manager. Its short termism, but it keeps the illusion of football being a sport alive. Arsenal are, to my mind, the only club in modern football who are operating PURELY as a business and will then justify this via a combination of propaganda and downright mendacity. They operate in precisely the same way a large train company operates, or an energy firm. Everyone KNOWS that Gas companies pay vastly less for raw gas than what they charge old ladies for gas, and they make their vast profits by confusing everyone with complex tarrifs and bullsh*tting about how much it costs to maintain the gas network. They then try and present themselves as cosy friendly types by making silly adverts involving penguins. Train companies do precisely the same. But everybody puts up with the c***ts because otherwise you would freeze to death and wouldnt be able to go on a train. The difference is, we dont SUPPORT the gas and train companies. We didnt grow up cheering them on as they laid new gas pipes and railway lines and we dont rush downstairs to get the newspaper off the door mat to see how their shares are doing.

But football CANNOT operate like this. It CANT, because it HAS to maintain the illusion of attempting to achieve sporting success. Football is under a microscope like never before, literally everyone has a view on who's good and who is bad, fans globally analyse club and player performances like never before. This leaves Arsenal literally NOWHERE to hide, their business agenda is so GLARINGLY EVIDENT that it has destroyed their relationship with a large group of their fans. If they got rid of Wenger, the spell would be broken, it really is that simple. If the next bloke did sh*te, having set the precedent with Wenger, they would then have to get rid of him. Hey presto, we would be back in the realms of an ordinary football club. With highs, lows, talking points and so on. But until they do this, we are NOT in the realms of other clubs. If you can still cheer excitedly when Mezut Ozil taps a late winner in against Swansea, whilst acknowledging that we are most likely going to get smashed to f*cking smithereens by Man City (or Watford/West Brom) the following week, then good for you. But a lot of people cant be f*Cked. because that late winner against Swansea, to have any context, would need to be LEADING somewhere, but at Arsenal, we all know it isn't leading anywhere at all. I could write a f*cking book on this, I really could.

Why don't you? My kid shared with me a IG post that said "I suspect Arsenal was created as a social media experiment to see how much you can support a club before killing yourself". There's much to say about supporting the Arsenal, Nick Hornby proved that with Fever Pitch. I think maybe we are all mad in our own way, why else do we support the Arsenal?

On your points, Celine, I agree with most of what you said, its all true, and we all know this but like true love, I'm still gonna celebrate the last minute tap-in winner against Swansea even if I know with 100 percent certainty that Arsenal gonna f++k me up tmrw, strip me of all my money & belongings, and ban me for life from the Emirates, make me lose my job, and lose 15-0 at home against Bayern the same week. Its like loving the life of your life, I just can't help it.

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Bergmars (IP Logged)
Date: 09 November, 2017 06:08

I think the most damning thing is that Wenger and all the other idiots at the club are not in the least bit ashamed or embarrassed by what they do.They have made my club the butt of the sneering self satisfied pundits jokes and couldn't give a @#$%&.



A shadow of what we were

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
Date: 09 November, 2017 11:59

Absolutely spot on and the thing that really gets on my c.unt is there’s still some morons out there who insist that Wenger is still the man for the job and the only reason he has turned into the pathetic tactically inept loser he has been for over a DECADE now is because he’s having to work to Kroenke and the boards restrictions.

Absolute nonsense, he f.ucking endorses it. If he wasn’t a pathological liar to the contrary and insisting the club is ambitious and can actually challenge for titles, I suppose you could understand it. For £8m a year I guess I’d become a greedy moral-less c.unt as well and eventually sell out the very people who supported making me what I once was at this once great football club business.

I mean how many times have you heard him harp on about how the club insists on ‘doing things the right way’ or their ‘values’? Er what f.ucking values? if there’s bigger parasites out there in the business world (and there are many) they’ll struggle to behave like bigger sewer rats than what sit in our boardroom.

Then there’s others who have finally realised that he is in fact way past his useful by date and a shadow of what he once was pre-Dein departure and Kroenke arrival. But they believe what I can only assume is sentimentally that he should instead ‘move up stairs’. Also absolute nonsense because if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem and he needs to f.uck off as far away from the club as possible and take that den of c.unts he ‘works’ for with him.

Then and only then may the fans slowly but surely start to finally get some reward and enjoyment back from this club they’ve dedicated most of their lives to. It’s disgraceful what they have done really.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Ares (IP Logged)
Date: 10 November, 2017 04:19

You guys are okay

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: litmus (IP Logged)
Date: 10 November, 2017 05:16

Didn't Wenger said he will leave the club if he feels he can't improve the team anymore (or something like that). Well, hello - you can't (or to stubborn) to do so, so leave then!

If you truly love Arsenal like you said, you would!

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 10 November, 2017 20:29

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BootyDaddy
Absolutely spot on and the thing that really gets on my c.unt is there’s still some morons out there who insist that Wenger is still the man for the job and the only reason he has turned into the pathetic tactically inept loser he has been for over a DECADE now is because he’s having to work to Kroenke and the boards restrictions.
Absolute nonsense, he f.ucking endorses it. If he wasn’t a pathological liar to the contrary and insisting the club is ambitious and can actually challenge for titles, I suppose you could understand it. For £8m a year I guess I’d become a greedy moral-less c.unt as well and eventually sell out the very people who supported making me what I once was at this once great football club business.

I mean how many times have you heard him harp on about how the club insists on ‘doing things the right way’ or their ‘values’? Er what f.ucking values? if there’s bigger parasites out there in the business world (and there are many) they’ll struggle to behave like bigger sewer rats than what sit in our boardroom.

Then there’s others who have finally realised that he is in fact way past his useful by date and a shadow of what he once was pre-Dein departure and Kroenke arrival. But they believe what I can only assume is sentimentally that he should instead ‘move up stairs’. Also absolute nonsense because if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem and he needs to f.uck off as far away from the club as possible and take that den of c.unts he ‘works’ for with him.

Then and only then may the fans slowly but surely start to finally get some reward and enjoyment back from this club they’ve dedicated most of their lives to. It’s disgraceful what they have done really.

Look, a coin has 2 sides and a thin edge.

One, you are looking at Arsenal FC as a traditional football club your grandpa and papa supported and it is a traditional within your family. You are looking at Arsenal FC as belonging to the Elite or marquee club like Real, Barca, Bayern, Man City, ManU, Chelski, Juventus, PSG, etc.

But we are not, and even during the halcyon days of the French Spine, we are still a 2nd tier European club (in Europe, the equivalent of those EPL yo-yo clubs like West Ham, Sunderland, etc. hovering between promotion and relegation and winning the odd cup here and then). Last season, we should realize that how hard it is to keep Arsenal FC at Top-4 level for 19 consecutive seasons.

It is alternative history to assert that another manager can achieve what Arsene Wenger had done for Arsenal FC without those limited resources and those missteps in transfer market. How do we know that other manager will not make those mis-steps as well?

It is a business cycle - ups and downs.
Liverpool dominated in the 80s ...
Then ManU in the 1990s and 2000s till Mourinho turned up.
Even Mourinho failed to dominate like Alex Ferguson did.

Today, we have Man City, ManU, Chelski, Liverpool and even Tiny Totts who can win the title ... although if Guardiola should get all his pieces in place - money not a problem - then Man City will dominate the 2010s and right into 2020s.

Arsenal FC?
Even with a managerial change, we are still a 2nd tier European club ... like an NFL club, just competitive, now and then make the playoff but never qualify for SuperBowl.

Doubt we will ever win a title with any manager in the next 2 decades as long as Silent Stan is still the owner; and even if Klopp or Guardiola or Ponchettino or Mourinho is the manager.


On the other side, since the formation of Premier League and that the start of multi-billion sterling pounds from Sky Sport, English football clubs is no more but morphed into billion dollars American profession sport business with the bottom-line as the priority.
Arsenal fans are just captive customers with Silent Stan knowing that there are always 60,000 suckers always willing to buy overpriced tickets and merchandises to fatten his wallet.

On the thin edge of probability like even a broken down clock got its time right twice a day, I am always that eternal optimist that Arsene Wenger will finally got his acts together and build a title-winning team from his Youth Project to win the title or CL Cup within 5 years from now, i.e. by 2021/22.

Le Chiam! (Sm128)

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 10 November, 2017 20:37

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Merlion96
Quote:
BootyDaddy
Absolutely spot on and the thing that really gets on my c.unt is there’s still some morons out there who insist that Wenger is still the man for the job and the only reason he has turned into the pathetic tactically inept loser he has been for over a DECADE now is because he’s having to work to Kroenke and the boards restrictions.
Absolute nonsense, he f.ucking endorses it. If he wasn’t a pathological liar to the contrary and insisting the club is ambitious and can actually challenge for titles, I suppose you could understand it. For £8m a year I guess I’d become a greedy moral-less c.unt as well and eventually sell out the very people who supported making me what I once was at this once great football club business.

I mean how many times have you heard him harp on about how the club insists on ‘doing things the right way’ or their ‘values’? Er what f.ucking values? if there’s bigger parasites out there in the business world (and there are many) they’ll struggle to behave like bigger sewer rats than what sit in our boardroom.

Then there’s others who have finally realised that he is in fact way past his useful by date and a shadow of what he once was pre-Dein departure and Kroenke arrival. But they believe what I can only assume is sentimentally that he should instead ‘move up stairs’. Also absolute nonsense because if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem and he needs to f.uck off as far away from the club as possible and take that den of c.unts he ‘works’ for with him.

Then and only then may the fans slowly but surely start to finally get some reward and enjoyment back from this club they’ve dedicated most of their lives to. It’s disgraceful what they have done really.

Look, a coin has 2 sides and a thin edge.

One, you are looking at Arsenal FC as a traditional football club your grandpa and papa supported and it is a traditional within your family. You are looking at Arsenal FC as belonging to the Elite or marquee club like Real, Barca, Bayern, Man City, ManU, Chelski, Juventus, PSG, etc.

But we are not, and even during the halcyon days of the French Spine, we are still a 2nd tier European club (in Europe, the equivalent of those EPL yo-yo clubs like West Ham, Sunderland, etc. hovering between promotion and relegation and winning the odd cup here and then). Last season, we should realize that how hard it is to keep Arsenal FC at Top-4 level for 19 consecutive seasons.

It is alternative history to assert that another manager can achieve what Arsene Wenger had done for Arsenal FC without those limited resources and those missteps in transfer market. How do we know that other manager will not make those mis-steps as well?

It is a business cycle - ups and downs.
Liverpool dominated in the 80s ...
Then ManU in the 1990s and 2000s till Mourinho turned up.
Even Mourinho failed to dominate like Alex Ferguson did.

Today, we have Man City, ManU, Chelski, Liverpool and even Tiny Totts who can win the title ... although if Guardiola should get all his pieces in place - money not a problem - then Man City will dominate the 2010s and right into 2020s.

Arsenal FC?
Even with a managerial change, we are still a 2nd tier European club ... like an NFL club, just competitive, now and then make the playoff but never qualify for SuperBowl.

Doubt we will ever win a title with any manager in the next 2 decades as long as Silent Stan is still the owner; and even if Klopp or Guardiola or Ponchettino or Mourinho is the manager.


On the other side, since the formation of Premier League and that the start of multi-billion sterling pounds from Sky Sport, English football clubs is no more but morphed into billion dollars American profession sport business with the bottom-line as the priority.
Arsenal fans are just captive customers with Silent Stan knowing that there are always 60,000 suckers always willing to buy overpriced tickets and merchandises to fatten his wallet.

On the thin edge of probability like even a broken down clock got its time right twice a day, I am always that eternal optimist that Arsene Wenger will finally got his acts together and build a title-winning team from his Youth Project to win the title or CL Cup within 5 years from now, i.e. by 2021/22.

Le Chiam! (Sm128)
We don't have to write so long story to say "IN ARSENE WE TRUST".. (Sm6)

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 10 November, 2017 20:54

It should be "IN ARSENAL MANAGER WE TRUST" even if Bozo the Clown is the manager.

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: De Times (IP Logged)
Date: 20 November, 2017 09:17

The amount of moaning on this thread, one would think we didn't spend over 50 million pounds on a single striker last summer and bought the best left back in Germany while keeping our own best players. It seems until we win a major trophy, people would continue to see us as underachieving, when in reality, we're frankly doing as best as we can with the level of competition we have in the league now. Does anyone think we can actually spend higher than Man U, Man city, and Chelsea? That person is obviously delusional and is only blaming others for it.



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Flava (IP Logged)
Date: 20 November, 2017 11:09

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De Times
The amount of moaning on this thread, one would think we didn't spend over 50 million pounds on a single striker last summer and bought the best left back in Germany while keeping our own best players. It seems until we win a major trophy, people would continue to see us as underachieving, when in reality, we're frankly doing as best as we can with the level of competition we have in the league now. Does anyone think we can actually spend higher than Man U, Man city, and Chelsea? That person is obviously delusional and is only blaming others for it.

Arsenal win, De Times shows up.

We'll all be happy when Wenger fks off mate.

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
Date: 20 November, 2017 11:18

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Flava
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De Times
The amount of moaning on this thread, one would think we didn't spend over 50 million pounds on a single striker last summer and bought the best left back in Germany while keeping our own best players. It seems until we win a major trophy, people would continue to see us as underachieving, when in reality, we're frankly doing as best as we can with the level of competition we have in the league now. Does anyone think we can actually spend higher than Man U, Man city, and Chelsea? That person is obviously delusional and is only blaming others for it.

Arsenal win, De Times shows up.

We'll all be happy when Wenger fks off mate.



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Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 23 November, 2017 10:52

Ha!!! Ha!!! De Times Reemerges from hibernation as soon as Arsenal won the derby. typical

very predictable like Wenger.



Wenger Is Gone Now So Can We Be Allowed To Breathe Now???

Re: What the f*ck are people even doing still talking about Arsenal here.
Posted by: hippogunner (IP Logged)
Date: 23 November, 2017 19:55

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De Times
The amount of moaning on this thread, one would think we didn't spend over 50 million pounds on a single striker last summer and bought the best left back in Germany while keeping our own best players. It seems until we win a major trophy, people would continue to see us as underachieving, when in reality, we're frankly doing as best as we can with the level of competition we have in the league now. Does anyone think we can actually spend higher than Man U, Man city, and Chelsea? That person is obviously delusional and is only blaming others for it.

Yes Leicester spent a fortune didn't they and won the league. Wenger needs to fcck off and the club needs to get some ambition. The former is inevitable eventually, the latter is not.

And oh yes 50 million on a striker you thought was average.

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