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Re: Kane
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 18:20

I don't agree with that has been pants for 10 years considering he was the earliest adopters of first the 5 in midfield and then barca s 4-3-3 before other teams followed suit.
He had a good team whicb we were in 4 competitions when he decided to have a crack at all 4 which cost the team, he even admitted that in an interview later that after beating barca he did give the confidence to the players that they could go win all 4 competitions. Obv that was a mistake.

With a little more money either the hleb team or the cesc team would have won the league. He deteriorated drastically in player management around the time rvp left.

Once arteta-ramsey partnsrship broke, we stopped winning any banks in midfield, then slowly we started struggling to bypass the opposition s first line of defense.

Fast foward today and we cannot even bring the ball out from the back at all.

It has been slowly regressing to the point of no return

Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 19:45

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don't agree with that has been pants for 10 years considering he was the earliest adopters of first the 5 in midfield and then barca s 4-3-3 before other teams followed suit.

Dude, you must revisit this season... Arsenal 2007-08
Since then Arsene Wenger became pants. He burnt the title challenge not due to Eduardo's injury as Adebayor was on fire but due to Center back cover. He played the 2nd half of the season with just two CBs when everybody knew a humble January addition could have seen him on top of the league till end of the season instead he sold Diarra who soon became a DM sensation ending up playing for Real Madrid. If he were the manager of any proper football club that simple miscalculation should have shown him the door but well still he's at the club n Shano defends him with some transfer fees!!!! That's actually fu.cking decade. Today the guy has no pants. (Sm6)

Re: Kane
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 19:53

We know the haggling for 2.5 mn dollars for schwarzer whereas now he's spending 50mn on lacazette and 42 on ozil along others. Sunroof disnt add if he now spends 15 mn on cech.

We have no idea what were the target s set except that in his interviews since 2016 he has mentioned that we had to make transfer profits every year. So id give him the benefit of the doubt there since the reyes and wiltord transfers before and the lacazette transfer now doesn't quite add up to our haggling for schwarzer and the general penny pinching in those days.

I m judging him purely based on the coaching and in the last 3 years when he's had the money. And that's what's im calling him out for bars on i can see on the pitch.
What is happening behind the scenes is pure speculation since i have no know how. Im just tired of the team play since 2015 and the general decline from there

Re: Kane
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 19:57

Btw, Diarra couldn't string a couple of passes together. I've seen him play for us. He wasn't great. He had probably the best agent in the world i dunno. His case was similar to barca buying vwrmaelen from us.

Thsts was another diarra (mahamadou) that played for madrid as well along side emerson. That was not lasana diarra who i consider the crappy diara at madrid

Re: Kane
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 20:03

Of course, I'm comparing him to DMs in that era.

He will walk into most teams today as would most players from that era because of their understanding of the game and technical abilities.

Thsts how crappy the standard of football is nowadays with hardly any decent center backs/dms in any league.

Ppl like n golo kante are made to look world class



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Re: Kane
Posted by: Shane (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 21:45

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SandyB
Instead he sold Diarra who soon became a DM sensation ending up playing for Real Madrid.

Who sold him to Arsenal Sandy? It was your boyfriend Mourinho, wasn't it. This is the part you wriggle free and pretend that Mourinho selling him is different to Wenger selling him (Sm6)

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Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 22:19

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Shane
Quote:
SandyB
Instead he sold Diarra who soon became a DM sensation ending up playing for Real Madrid.

Who sold him to Arsenal Sandy? It was your boyfriend Mourinho, wasn't it. This is the part you wriggle free and pretend that Mourinho selling him is different to Wenger selling him (Sm6)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--Un9eq940A8/U-snqOTvqJI/AAAAAAAAEr4/sAM2nkN44YE/s320/harry-houdini-straight-jacket-o.gif

Dude again, you make an ass outta yourself.. there was a player called Michael Essien at that time playing for Chelsea n the people who didn't know about Diarra the guy went to Portsmouth n had a dazzling season ended up winning the FA cup for Portsmouth that year.
Next season Madrid bought him n started the MF revolution what you see today. I used to follow La Liga very often that time n used to see him playing Makelele role very well at least for couple of seasons. The point is no matter how you want to defend Wenger he had the money to buy Diarra in August n sell him on January proves that he had money to buy a central defender at that time which he didn't n eventually blown a simple title race to Ferguson. So as Mourinho says Arsene Wenger is specialist of failure it all became clear since then.

Re: Kane
Posted by: Shane (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 22:48

You're a specialist in wriggling.

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Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 02 January, 2018 23:47

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Shane
You're a specialist in wriggling.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--Un9eq940A8/U-snqOTvqJI/AAAAAAAAEr4/sAM2nkN44YE/s320/harry-houdini-straight-jacket-o.gif
But I don’t manage your club, Lord Wenger does!

Re: Kane
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 06:54

Sandy the reason he was sold by mourinho is because there were better DMs available those days. I see him play for us and he was missing simple passes just like Diaby.

If you watch him now he will look world class cause there are not specialist DMs left anymore. They just cover and take up defensive positions. There are hardly any DMs that can tackle and win tbf ball of attackers like hazard, coutinho etc when the chips are down and there s 3 on 3 situation. Most of the time they end up taking a yellow for the team with everyone applauding the professional fouls.

Waiting at the right moment and tackling used to be a skill which is lost today. Diarra was by no means s world beater. Niether was michael owen when madrid bought him.
Whether he had the money to buy the defender or not is anybody s guess.
And adebayor was over worked and didn't play the final part of the that season very well. Rvp was a perma crock Winger back then

Re: Kane
Posted by: Goofle (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 12:44

Quote:
CazOnARola
Of course, I'm comparing him to DMs in that era.
He will walk into most teams today as would most players from that era because of their understanding of the game and technical abilities.

Thsts how crappy the standard of football is nowadays with hardly any decent center backs/dms in any league.

Ppl like n golo kante are made to look world class

The level of football is a lot higher in the modern game you lunatic.

Kante is so far ahead of sh*te like Diarra and Flamini.

Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 12:49

Quote:
CazOnARola
Sandy the reason he was sold by mourinho is because there were better DMs available those days. I see him play for us and he was missing simple passes just like Diaby.
If you watch him now he will look world class cause there are not specialist DMs left anymore. They just cover and take up defensive positions. There are hardly any DMs that can tackle and win tbf ball of attackers like hazard, coutinho etc when the chips are down and there s 3 on 3 situation. Most of the time they end up taking a yellow for the team with everyone applauding the professional fouls.

Waiting at the right moment and tackling used to be a skill which is lost today. Diarra was by no means s world beater. Niether was michael owen when madrid bought him.
Whether he had the money to buy the defender or not is anybody s guess.
And adebayor was over worked and didn't play the final part of the that season very well. Rvp was a perma crock Winger back then
Defend however you guys want to defend Wenger, money was there or not, Adebayor wasn’t scoring enough, Diarra wasn’t world class etc. Threads are here in AT when we talk about all these stuff, you can dig n read. The failure is well documented n Arsenal finished 3 rd in that season eventually 4 points behind winner ManU giving away 5 points lead at the top of the table. That’s the start of pants down era of Arsene Wenger now the pant doesn’t exist n we all predicted those days this is coming.

Re: Kane
Posted by: Shane (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 14:04

Nobody is denying Arsenal should've won the Premier League in 2008 Sandy. Wenger also f*cked up in 2011, 2014 and 2016 by leaving the squad short. He will continue to do this, because for some reason he refuses to learn from his mistakes. This makes him an idiot. Does it make him a sh*t football manager? No, it just stops him from being a great one again and if you take anything from this debacle of a thread then make sure it's that.

Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 14:47

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Shane
Nobody is denying Arsenal should've won the Premier League in 2008 Sandy. Wenger also f*cked up in 2011, 2014 and 2016 by leaving the squad short. He will continue to do this, because for some reason he refuses to learn from his mistakes. This makes him an idiot. Does it make him a sh*t football manager? No, it just stops him from being a great one again and if you take anything from this debacle of a thread then make sure it's that.

oh hell yeah it makes him one of the biggest shi.t manager the world has ever seen (Sm6). In your words a manager who has blown league title 4 times not just one is out of debate the king of the shi.t. A manager who isn't employable anywhere on planet's top teams aspiring to win something meaningful is by definition sh.it. Harsh, yes, disrespectful, yes but truth.

Re: Kane
Posted by: Shane (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 16:04

He rejected Paris Saint-Germain in 2014 and 2015 Sandy, which also debunks your money grabbing theory I think.

It's genuinely astonishing how often you've been wrong on this thread. It's like that bit in The Simpsons when Sideshow Bob can't stop stepping on rakes. You can't stop being totally, totally wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/2rrFBbH.gif

For the record, I'm not arguing Wenger is "king of the sh*t". That's the most idiotic thing you've said to date, because I've literally just called him a prized f*ck up.

Re: Kane
Posted by: SA-Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 16:25

I don't know if the penny pinching is an excuse for his very poor management over the years. During the 2010/2011 season we had arguably the best squad in the Premier League. City wasn't still a force, Chelsea collapsed before Winter, and the rivals were an aging Manchester United.

Somehow Wenger managed to screw by signing Chamakh (there were many other available strikers) and by bringing Squillaci. During the first months of the season things looked bright despite having a very bad player as Djourou in the center of defense. Once the latter stopped having the form of his life, everything collapsed. Then during the winter when we needed another defende and/or midfielder, we didn't bring anyone.

Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 16:47

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He rejected Paris Saint-Germain in 2014 and 2015 Sandy, which also debunks your money grabbing theory I think.

That's a story he tells but no one believes EXCEPT AKBs..(Sm22)
Even if PSG ever recruited him wouldn't have last more than 3 months with their lineup of players, they would go on strike to oust him.. he knows that that's why he never goes anywhere!! (Sm6)

Re: Kane
Posted by: CazOnARola (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 17:08

Quote:
Goofle
Quote:
CazOnARola
Of course, I'm comparing him to DMs in that era.
He will walk into most teams today as would most players from that era because of their understanding of the game and technical abilities.

Thsts how crappy the standard of football is nowadays with hardly any decent center backs/dms in any league.

Ppl like n golo kante are made to look world class

The level of football is a lot higher in the modern game you lunatic.

Kante is so far ahead of sh*te like Diarra and Flamini.
I disagree. The game is different. More fast paced and demanding physically. Teams are much better filled to hold their shape. No ridiculous highline so now difficult to get at the back four.

But what I'm saying because of the because of team ethics, individual qualities have suffered.

Hardly any strikers that actually fake before shooting. First touch into space missing. Defenders rely on double teaming or fouls to tackle great dribblers.

You hardly see anyone robbing the likes of hazard without fouling. Ashley Cole used to keep ppl like ronaldo in his pocket when he was young and tried fancy stuff.

Below is an example of keeping your eye on the ball and not the man against the best player ever according to some
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There were plenty of DMs who could do this back then without just fouling their man all the time rotationally.

This applies to most other team sports, more method and planning and training, less emphasis on individual expression. When u dont express skills, u lose them



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Re: Kane
Posted by: Shane (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 17:33

Quote:
SandyB
That's a story he tells but no one believes EXCEPT AKBs..(Sm22) Even if PSG ever recruited him wouldn't have last more than 3 months with their lineup of players, they would go on strike to oust him.. he knows that that's why he never goes anywhere!! (Sm6)

I'm sure he could tempt the Brazilian players to come back off strike by bribing them, a Brazilian's kryptonite. I could bribe you into changing your username to Sideshow Sandy for a tenner. PM me your Paypal details.

Re: Kane
Posted by: SandyB (IP Logged)
Date: 03 January, 2018 18:32

This is not you your Daddy love speaking, shano. Wenger might be the richest football manager in the world but he doesn’t have the money to bribe even Dani Alves’s driver!! (Sm123)

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