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Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 00:49

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mini_andy
As aside note. Some of our 'fans' threw items onto the pitch during the first sending off. Nice work nob heads!

Totally stupid, although it would be funny if some of them lobbed their train tickets or car keys and had to buy a new train ticket or thumb a lift home off truckers, or ask the AA to give them their car access back, because their keys had been robbed.

Than again someone could get their own back, by filching the discarded keys and nicking the car, or at the very least leaving a dirty protest in it.

Hopefully some of them are on CCTV and get their comeuppance and are banned from all games for life.

Makes you wonder how many other people felt like throwing the d!ckheads onto the pitch.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.



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Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 10:32

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Cook and Mangan for me up top on tuesday, big fan of Norwoods work rate let himself down today though Mangan also a hard worker would like to see him get a run of games and get some match sharpness.

Probably, I'd go Cook and Kirby once he's fit again. Norwoods a left winger not a centre forward

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: 853OKG (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 15:35

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Hoots Mon
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Alabi was poor and Cook seemed a revelation when he came on but he did look shattered after the 20 mins he had been on.
Torquay looked awful going forwards with only the full backs throw ins and the occasional foray forwards from Jake Gosling causing concern. Their striker Keating was dreadful but managed to wind Steve up sufficiently. The Torquay fans I saw after the game couldn't believe we kept a player like Cook on the bench for 74 minutes. McEvely looked solid as did Sutton when he came on.
On a side note I was chatting to my mate Jake Gosling from Torquay after the game and he also said he was suprised how poor Alabi was.
Had a nice suprise too the entire team and MM came out (bar Steve and Nors who must have already been on the bus) and posed for photos with my lad and took time to talk about the game. My lad was blown away. Mangan even rushed back in to get the lads to all sign a programme for him. Norburn said he was frustrated coming off but understood why and Jack Dunn said the game wasn't set up for him to come on which suggests MM will be using him when he thinks we need to run directly at the opposition. Tranmere squad with Ethan

Good post. Nice photos.

One poor game doesnt make a player poor. It would be good to have stats (for all the forwards) How many passes did they receive? How many tackles? How many attempts on goal? Etc. Etc. None of the tranmere team scored so can i assume all the attacking players were poor? Or was the team set up to not concede ? Or was it that Norwood and Alabi combination is ineffective? Guess we will see over next three games where norwood isn't available

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 15:46

The general review of the game has to be a postive one, 10 men for half a game, clean sheet.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: ming05 (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 15:50


Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 16:18

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http://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-2849417

blimey that was a thumping crunching challenge from Buxton

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: jonesy792 (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 16:47

Alabi should keep his place for Tuesday. Agree with above post that all the attacking players could have been considered "poor" , whatever "poor" actually means. None of the forward players stood out, not even Cook.

Suggestions to press the panic button and start Mangan are unjustified at this early stage.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Temple Road (IP Logged)
Date: 06 August, 2017 19:04

Alabi and Cook up front together for me. Alabi is fast enough to play off Cook and they can both lay off the headed ball. Cook can also cross a good ball. It will be interesting to see MM,s next team for the Woking game.

Keep the Faith

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 00:12

First useless fact of the new week


I believe Spencer Myers,the player who in my opinion cost us promotion last season by breaking Vaughan's leg and stopping us from playing 3-5-2 at Wembley,was born in Torquay.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 13:53

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mini_andy

The Buxton tackle happened right in front of me (and the linesman) What a tackle!! Then the player did his fake collapsing so the ref stopped it (no foul given). Then it just got silly. Buxton was booked for the non foul, McNulty decided to push their gobby striker and got a second yellow. Stupid decision from the captain. From that moment the plot was lost, every dubious tackle the players were going down like they'd been shot (including ours). The ref totally lost control.

Motm was Buxton for me. Solid at the back, good going forward, great set pieces, closest to scoring and knocked one of their players into next week.



It's been posted elsewhere[by someone who posts on here] that Buxton is ''a sending off waiting to happen '' and ''if we risk him''
smiling smiley

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 14:41

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Hoots Mon
Quote:
mini_andy

The Buxton tackle happened right in front of me (and the linesman) What a tackle!! Then the player did his fake collapsing so the ref stopped it (no foul given). Then it just got silly. Buxton was booked for the non foul, McNulty decided to push their gobby striker and got a second yellow. Stupid decision from the captain. From that moment the plot was lost, every dubious tackle the players were going down like they'd been shot (including ours). The ref totally lost control.

Motm was Buxton for me. Solid at the back, good going forward, great set pieces, closest to scoring and knocked one of their players into next week.



It's been posted elsewhere[by someone who posts on here] that Buxton is ''a sending off waiting to happen '' and ''if we risk him''
smiling smiley

He dives in from time to time, but usually times it correctly. (As per Saturday)

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Jack of all Trades (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 16:49

Just noticed the referee against Woking is one Karl Evans, the same official who sent Adam Buxton off against Bromley for a similar "meaty tackle"

I think MM needs to remind him of this, as no doubt similar tackling will probably be dealt with in the same way.

In my mind the two points dropped at Torquay last season along with the two points dropped against Bromley, from a comfortable 2.0 lead, were what cost us IMO the Championship.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 16:58

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Jack of all Trades
Just noticed the referee against Woking is one Karl Evans, the same official who sent Adam Buxton off against Bromley for a similar "meaty tackle"
I think MM needs to remind him of this, as no doubt similar tackling will probably be dealt with in the same way.

In my mind the two points dropped at Torquay last season along with the two points dropped against Bromley, from a comfortable 2.0 lead, were what cost us IMO the Championship.

The Vaughan injury I mentioned above, IMO cost us the play off final not the Championship.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: DCTRFC (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 18:29

I too had a side on vantage poin of the Buxton challenge. It was class. Chaney threw in the play acting to make it look worse. It was either a straight red or nothing at all so the yellow is a very strange decision. Again from where I was positioned the clown of a ref was going to let play go on but the even bigger clown of a Lino signalled for a foul?

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Phil65 (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 19:28

Just returned from my camping expedition in Torquay and have had time to digest and rationalise the events at Plainmoor. The following is therefore presented in a calm and considered tone: "The Deranged Clown From Ghandy's Circus Strikes Again" would be an appropriate title (for those who remember his antics at Prenton Park last season). The clown officially goes by the name of Samuel Allison, although he he has previously used the aliases of Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles and Blind Lemon Jefferson. Mr Allison has clearly been in exile in the English Riviera; obviously couldn't afford the French equivalent on Ghandy's wages or indeed his duplicitous masquerading as a football referee (without doubt the worst I have seen on the evidence of his performances involving TRFC). In my eyes there is only one reason he is still a referee at this level................(the referees association are all clowns so he is one of their own; sweaty palm time there as I could feel the racism card being brandished). Don't get me wrong, he didn't cost us the three points, we were actually better with 10/9 men. However, he did ruin the occasion; an occasion that cost me an arm and a leg. Well at least I still have my eyesight so chew on that Mr Allison. To be fair, he was ably assisted by his assistant who saw all (99% of it being wrong; he did spot Norwood's elbow and the correct decision was made). Mr Allison at least heard the call from his assistant so his ears are in fine working order! Can we just rewind to Buxton's tackle; perfect for those who were there. Mr Allison played on, only to be corrected by the assistant who failed to graduate from clown school so wanted to make a show of his esteemed entertainer friend. Buxton was then wrongly booked and before the free kick had been taken McNulty received a second card for splitting up the handbags. "Roll up, roll up. The circus is in town". I blame the Torquay officials who should have suspected something when the crazy green wig, red nose and size 18 clown shoes were spotted before kick off in the referees changing room. Back to the football; Buxton was excellent for most of the game and unlucky with his free kick that hit the bar. McEveley looked a good solid defender. Norburn looked bright to begin with but then drifted. I thought Harris had a quiet game, but to be expected perhaps. Alabi needs more support around him; his control did let him down. Norwood quiet and the elbow was stupid. I agree about the idiots throwing bottles on the pitch at their goalkeeper Clarke, but Clarke's behaviour after McNulty's sending off was despicable, running virtually the whole length of the pitch celebrating and windmilling his arms to get the Torquay fans going; totally unprofessional and inciteful (I'd be utterly ashamed if any of our players behaved like that; to repeat, bottle throwing was out of order). Mr Mellon, play 8 v Torquay at home and we'll do them!
Disclaimer: some of this post is tongue-in-cheek(leave that up to you) and posted by a tired and financially bereft man; no lawsuits or verbal hounding so please; any monetary donations PM me.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Phil65 (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 19:58

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mini_andy
Just back after a ice meal on the seafront. Well that was entertaining!
I take back what I said about McEveley when he signed. He's a touch of class. Once he's fully match fit he'll be spot on. Great signing!

We started the game well, Norwood had a great chance after a couple of minutes. I wasn't keen on the formation and it didn't really work. Jennings isn't effective out wide, he needs to be behind the strikers. Alabi was pretty isolated up top. We were trying to play some good stuff, but dare I say it, our match sharpness wasn't there. Norburn is skillfull, but will talk his way into a lot of bookings.

0-0 was a fair reflection at half team. Neither side deserved the lead.

The Buxton tackle happened right in front of me (and the linesman) What a tackle!! Then the player did his fake collapsing so the ref stopped it (no foul given). Then it just got silly. Buxton was booked for the non foul, McNulty decided to push their gobby striker and got a second yellow. Stupid decision from the captain. From that moment the plot was lost, every dubious tackle the players were going down like they'd been shot (including ours). The ref totally lost control.

Norwood was stupid. He went in with his elbow, so fully deserved his red.

Can't really judge the performance after that, we just had to hold on. I thought everyone did well today. Alabi needed players close to him, and the ball to his feet. He won't win many headers.

Motm was Buxton for me. Solid at the back, good going forward, great set pieces, closest to scoring and knocked one of their players into next week.

On to Tuesday.

By the way mini_andy, did your son have the full orange goalkeepers kit on?

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 20:07

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Phil65
Quote:
mini_andy
Just back after a ice meal on the seafront. Well that was entertaining!
I take back what I said about McEveley when he signed. He's a touch of class. Once he's fully match fit he'll be spot on. Great signing!

We started the game well, Norwood had a great chance after a couple of minutes. I wasn't keen on the formation and it didn't really work. Jennings isn't effective out wide, he needs to be behind the strikers. Alabi was pretty isolated up top. We were trying to play some good stuff, but dare I say it, our match sharpness wasn't there. Norburn is skillfull, but will talk his way into a lot of bookings.

0-0 was a fair reflection at half team. Neither side deserved the lead.

The Buxton tackle happened right in front of me (and the linesman) What a tackle!! Then the player did his fake collapsing so the ref stopped it (no foul given). Then it just got silly. Buxton was booked for the non foul, McNulty decided to push their gobby striker and got a second yellow. Stupid decision from the captain. From that moment the plot was lost, every dubious tackle the players were going down like they'd been shot (including ours). The ref totally lost control.

Norwood was stupid. He went in with his elbow, so fully deserved his red.

Can't really judge the performance after that, we just had to hold on. I thought everyone did well today. Alabi needed players close to him, and the ball to his feet. He won't win many headers.

Motm was Buxton for me. Solid at the back, good going forward, great set pieces, closest to scoring and knocked one of their players into next week.

On to Tuesday.

By the way mini_andy, did your son have the full orange goalkeepers kit on?

Sore subject, but no. Only the tops had been delivered, so depending on the temperature at the time, he was either in the pink goalie top, or the burgundy away kit.

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 07 August, 2017 20:56

Quote:
Phil65
Just returned from my camping expedition in Torquay and have had time to digest and rationalise the events at Plainmoor. The following is therefore presented in a calm and considered tone: "The Deranged Clown From Ghandy's Circus Strikes Again" would be an appropriate title (for those who remember his antics at Prenton Park last season). The clown officially goes by the name of Samuel Allison, although he he has previously used the aliases of Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles and Blind Lemon Jefferson. Mr Allison has clearly been in exile in the English Riviera; obviously couldn't afford the French equivalent on Ghandy's wages or indeed his duplicitous masquerading as a football referee (without doubt the worst I have seen on the evidence of his performances involving TRFC). In my eyes there is only one reason he is still a referee at this level................(the referees association are all clowns so he is one of their own; sweaty palm time there as I could feel the racism card being brandished). Don't get me wrong, he didn't cost us the three points, we were actually better with 10/9 men. However, he did ruin the occasion; an occasion that cost me an arm and a leg. Well at least I still have my eyesight so chew on that Mr Allison. To be fair, he was ably assisted by his assistant who saw all (99% of it being wrong; he did spot Norwood's elbow and the correct decision was made). Mr Allison at least heard the call from his assistant so his ears are in fine working order! Can we just rewind to Buxton's tackle; perfect for those who were there. Mr Allison played on, only to be corrected by the assistant who failed to graduate from clown school so wanted to make a show of his esteemed entertainer friend. Buxton was then wrongly booked and before the free kick had been taken McNulty received a second card for splitting up the handbags. "Roll up, roll up. The circus is in town". I blame the Torquay officials who should have suspected something when the crazy green wig, red nose and size 18 clown shoes were spotted before kick off in the referees changing room. Back to the football; Buxton was excellent for most of the game and unlucky with his free kick that hit the bar. McEveley looked a good solid defender. Norburn looked bright to begin with but then drifted. I thought Harris had a quiet game, but to be expected perhaps. Alabi needs more support around him; his control did let him down. Norwood quiet and the elbow was stupid. I agree about the idiots throwing bottles on the pitch at their goalkeeper Clarke, but Clarke's behaviour after McNulty's sending off was despicable, running virtually the whole length of the pitch celebrating and windmilling his arms to get the Torquay fans going; totally unprofessional and inciteful (I'd be utterly ashamed if any of our players behaved like that; to repeat, bottle throwing was out of order). Mr Mellon, play 8 v Torquay at home and we'll do them!
Disclaimer: some of this post is tongue-in-cheek(leave that up to you) and posted by a tired and financially bereft man; no lawsuits or verbal hounding so please; any monetary donations PM me.


Mr Allison seems to like reffing Torquay home games-in fact he did 5 out of the 23 last season ,so they know him well and he knows them well. I find this figure astounding -I can't fathom out how this is allowed . I remember him at PP once-against Braintree[?]- he wasn't very good then

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 08 August, 2017 09:43

Quote:
Hoots Mon
First useless fact of the new week

I believe Spencer Myers,the player who in my opinion cost us promotion last season by breaking Vaughan's leg and stopping us from playing 3-5-2 at Wembley,was born in Torquay.

Some more useless facts hoots,... I believe the ref at torquay , sam allison used to be a firefighter.. fireman sam..
Previous employment - firefighter
Present job - utterly atrocious football referee

Re: Next Up: Torquay United (A)
Posted by: luckyseven (IP Logged)
Date: 08 August, 2017 19:28

I thought it was a good game for a neutral, as 0-0's go, and a good performance, given the circumstances. If the ref had a grip on the game I don't think it would have boiled over with McNulty, the theatrics a few minutes before with their lad that went down were embarrassing.. Bit mad from Nors though. Think Torquay played for a point from the first minute. Got to take a point with 9 men I guess, but we did have chances to nick it, and the better of the game. Jenno and Buxton were the standouts for me. Cooky to start tonight please.

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