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A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: HardlyYardley (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 21:15

In the National League North, there are six clubs (some re-formed) which used to be in the Football League : York, Bradford Park Avenue, Stockport, Darlington, Kidderminster, Southport. In the National League South, there are none. This is probably a reflection of the way our economy has gone.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 21:38

Southport, BPA and Kidderminster are to me valid, but not like the others you mentioned, as their longevity in combined football league years does not span as much as York, Darlington and Stockport.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: HardlyYardley (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 21:56

Quote:
Matt34
Southport, BPA and Kidderminster are to me valid, but not like the others you mentioned, as their longevity in combined football league years does not span as much as York, Darlington and Stockport.

When I was young, Southport (local derby, of course) and Bradford P.A. (I remember seeing a young Kevin Hector play for them before joning Clough's great Derby side) were regular visitors to Prenton Park at a time when (rightly or wrongly) Football League status was pretty much guaranteed, even for Hartlepool who were so often bottom. I agree that Kidderminster don't have much League history, but they have been there, whereas no-one in the South section has ever been there.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 22:26

True Kidderminster have been there when Jan Molby was Manager.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: kennyspint (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 22:29

I think the Prem and Championship should pxxs off to Europe and leave the football league to the proper football clubs- old league or non league (except FGR obviously)

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: mini_andy (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 23:27

Who is the most southern club in the national league north? I can't bare to look!

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 23:43

Brackley I think though Leamington can't be too far away. I think Gloucester City who are in the NLS may have spent some time in NLN

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Aldo'smuzzy (IP Logged)
Date: 24 September, 2017 23:45

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mini_andy
Who is the most southern club in the national league north? I can't bare to look!

It's Brackley Town in Northants, not far from Silverstone. In recent years there's also been Oxford City, Gloucester City and, believe it or not, Bishop's Stortford...handy for Stansted airport!

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 04:21

I remember going to Bradford park avenue .and in 50s/60s teams played Christmas Day /Boxing Day played same team both days usually Southport or Chester .no computerised fixture list so it was contrived that teams played the nearest to them .nothing better then to wake up Christmas morning and see my new casey and football boots and off to the game. it would be packed out happy days

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 07:26

Off topic slightly, but New Brighton Tower were in the league for 3 years many moons ago, they played at the Tower Ground which had a capacity of 100k! They folded after 3 years due to the financial difficulties the parent company suffered. They later reformed as New Broghton AFC and played in the league again for a few years before being voted out, there biggest crowd in the league was against Rovers of nearly 15K, some of our fans of a superior vintage may remember watching them.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Gilbert's Fridge (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 09:14

I believe Stockport are planning to go full-time again next season in a hope it will get them back into the NL and further.

Incidentally, New Brighton Tower FC's short stay in the league was in the old division 2 as Divisions 3 North and South hadn't been formed then. More recently, in the 70s, I used to watch banger and stock car racing at their former ground (now a housing estate).

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Loyden1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 09:38

We used to go there and watch us in Cheshire league always a few thousand at games.Im not quite old enough to have seen them in the league.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 10:29

I used to take my 3boys to the banger racing at new Brighton by that time it was a dump .my claim to fame is I was at the New Brighton tower ballroom bopping away the night it burned down .we used to go on the fair ,a few beers then into the dance to chat up some unfortunate maiden .it was a wonderful place ,they should have rebuilt it ,all the Liverpool girls would come over great venue

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Doogie'sGhost (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 10:29

I was always under the impression that NB Tower were a club created just because there was a ground there. They just sprang into being as a fully formed club and had no history or fan base behind it. There was no real connection to the later NB club.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: WWStandsure (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 10:54

The fact is that MM has put together a squad that do not perform together. Slow, aged players (counting on experience I guess), are proving not to be the answer and that reflects very badly against MM - releasing so many from the 'reserves' at the end of last season (several who showed real prospects I feel, appears also to be a negative move in squad continuity, more so as their 'replacements' do not show the desire to 'give it their all'), while also re-signing so many 'injured' players appears ludicrous at this level. It'S all going horribly wrong for MM and it's his decisions that are at the root of it all. The training ground to first team performances must now seriously be questioned - it must seem obvious to all by all the comments posted here. Solutions, given the length of contract terms - release the highest wage earners (Davies, Cook and McNulty I presume), at the end of this season to provide additional income for perhaps five new signings (my thought here is that Pilling could be in goal, Gumbs replaces McNulty and a new forward plus support players arrive). Several players need to 'adjust' their own performances within this squad (Hughes, Dunn etc - and right now), - Norwood appears to be playing out of position, he started as a left winger/forward - so why is he being played on the right wing? - there are many strange decisions from 'management' it is not worth mentioning them all. Start with shooting practice, aim for the bloody goal - it is NOT acceptable for a professional player to just belt a ball high and wide in open play - any fool can do that. MP must be seething at the quality of players and how they operate, MM please take note.

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 12:34

There is a funny you tube video doing the rounds which shows how the fans of FC Magdeburg in Germany tried to help their non scoring team . I don't know how to download it but I think its youtube.com/watch?v=II5K2hQDSz0 i anyone can help

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: rossb07 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 13:13

Quote:
Hoots Mon
There is a funny you tube video doing the rounds which shows how the fans of FC Magdeburg in Germany tried to help their non scoring team . I don't know how to download it but I think its youtube.com/watch?v=II5K2hQDSz0 i anyone can help

[www.youtube.com]

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 13:19

Quote:
rossb07
Quote:
Hoots Mon
There is a funny you tube video doing the rounds which shows how the fans of FC Magdeburg in Germany tried to help their non scoring team . I don't know how to download it but I think its youtube.com/watch?v=II5K2hQDSz0 i anyone can help

[www.youtube.com]


Thanks Ross .Its actually shown better on the one minute 12 clip on the right

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: Loyden1 (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 16:42

Ha ha good that

Re: A Strange, Sad Fact
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 25 September, 2017 17:37

Quote:
Higgosboots
Off topic slightly, but New Brighton Tower were in the league for 3 years many moons ago, they played at the Tower Ground which had a capacity of 100k! They folded after 3 years due to the financial difficulties the parent company suffered. They later reformed as New Broghton AFC and played in the league again for a few years before being voted out, there biggest crowd in the league was against Rovers of nearly 15K, some of our fans of a superior vintage may remember watching them.
It was the first away game that I went to in 49/50 season

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