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Re: FGR
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 28 September, 2017 06:17

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What makes you doubt Palios would tell him , why wouldn't they discuss players wages,

Simple; because if other clubs know what you pay they might decide to try and gazump other clubs on deals that they want.

That wouldn't be an issue if joe public know, but you almost never hear a chairman publicly admit his best player earns X per week, bar that Glenn Tamplin guy who openly admitted that rumours of Paul Konchesky being on £10,000 a week were true, but until then I'd never heard of any chairman publicly admit a players wages, whilst said player was still under contract.

Also Palios might possibly believe for the reason stated or some other reason(s), it was not beneficial to Tranmere to tell Vince, considering Tranmere would have nothing to gain from telling him, so any potential negative issue(s) would not be offset by any positives as there wouldn't be any.

You don't think if a club wants to sign a player thats been approached by another club, they don't just ask what the offer was and then offer another 200 quid a week, or when approaching a signed player ask what they earn. Like I say there's no military secrets about.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Aldo'smuzzy (IP Logged)
Date: 28 September, 2017 18:01

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2 the moon
Vince said after the play off final their budget was half of what ours is. Still don't know how true that statement was

If he said that he's talking rubbish.

After Higgo posted Tranmere's accounts on here a few weeks ago, I had a look at FGR's accounts. Ours were up to June 2016 and FGR's were to April 2016 so admittedly they don't reflect last season, but I doubt things would've shifted too much.

FGR's wage bill was £2.37m, split between 33 management/players and 37 admin/support people.

Ours was £2.34m, split between 50 management/players, 28 full time admin/support and 87 part time admin/support (I guess they'll be stewards, turnstile operators etc).

I doubt the admin/support people at each club will be on vastly differing wages so it looks like we both had similar player wage bills in 2015/16. Though, because we had 50% more players than them, their players earned on average quite a bit more per head than ours.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 28 September, 2017 19:40

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Higgosboots
You don't think if a club wants to sign a player thats been approached by another club, they don't just ask what the offer was and then offer another 200 quid a week, or when approaching a signed player ask what they earn. Like I say there's no military secrets about.

That could happen potentially yes, but then that's for the player / agent to disclose or not disclose.

After all the rumours were Harry Redknapp wanted John Terry at Birmingham and offered £70,000 a week, but does that mean even if true that Birmingham could pay such monies, or anything close to that routinely?

I doubt it and if they did they wouldn't want other clubs to know, because perhaps that could be more than Premier League clubs like Burnley and Bournemouth could afford, so then if you wanted to possibly nobble a Premier league club for a player, you fly under the radar under the banner of Championship club = less money than you; let them make a reasonable offer to a player you want then eclipse it.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 28 September, 2017 21:03

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Matt34
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You don't think if a club wants to sign a player thats been approached by another club, they don't just ask what the offer was and then offer another 200 quid a week, or when approaching a signed player ask what they earn. Like I say there's no military secrets about.

That could happen potentially yes, but then that's for the player / agent to disclose or not disclose.

After all the rumours were Harry Redknapp wanted John Terry at Birmingham and offered £70,000 a week, but does that mean even if true that Birmingham could pay such monies, or anything close to that routinely?

I doubt it and if they did they wouldn't want other clubs to know, because perhaps that could be more than Premier League clubs like Burnley and Bournemouth could afford, so then if you wanted to possibly nobble a Premier league club for a player, you fly under the radar under the banner of Championship club = less money than you; let them make a reasonable offer to a player you want then eclipse it.

The accounts are their on line for all to see, an even without other clubs know exactly wat boat each other are in, anyhow none of us know what they did or didn't discuss,

Re: FGR
Posted by: Gilbert's Fridge (IP Logged)
Date: 14 October, 2017 15:55

FGR beaten 4-0 at home today ... I'm not smiling, honest!!

Re: FGR
Posted by: aktrfc (IP Logged)
Date: 14 October, 2017 16:14

Ok we all hate them, but I'd still swop places with them now.

Re: FGR
Posted by: iagoapcen (IP Logged)
Date: 14 October, 2017 16:20

league places yes, clubs never :-)

Re: FGR
Posted by: cobas (IP Logged)
Date: 15 October, 2017 18:55

that might be true, but they were paying massive wages. otherwise how could they attract the players they had

Re: FGR
Posted by: 2 the moon (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 10:48

I'm in the minority and really don't have anything against FGR. they were in this league for 20 years so imo they deserved their shot at FL as much as anyone. ok a rich local businessman owns the club and is ploughing money the club couldn't generate off it's own steam. ring any bells?.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Phil65 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 17:55

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I'm in the minority and really don't have anything against FGR. they were in this league for 20 years so imo they deserved their shot at FL as much as anyone. ok a rich local businessman owns the club and is ploughing money the club couldn't generate off it's own steam. ring any bells?.

+1. The marmite club of football. Love 'em or hate 'em. Despite some of their annoying antics towards the end of the Wembley match, they deserved their win. They are a league club on merit, earning that right over the season, not just one game. We met some affable and genuine FGR supporters at Wembley and wished them well (okay, through gritted teeth!). If you want to feel better, read their forum and you'll see the torture they're going through; we don't need to kick them when they're down.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 18:33

Very bitter on here, they were the best team on the day, deserved the win, second playoff final in as many years, done more than us to get out the league. Can't see them going down either.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Jack of all Trades (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 18:51

They fully deserved they victory on the day, what continues to irritate the majority of Rovers fans however, is their antics over the last two seasons at PP which, have been well documented elsewhere.

FGR need an immediate improvement in form as with Port Vale and Chesterfield they are already a few points adrift and they were apparently flattered by only a 4.0 defeat at home to Newport last week.

Never kick anyone when they are down but, the old adage "what goes around comes around" is quite appropriate.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Loyden1 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 19:02

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Very bitter on here, they were the best team on the day, deserved the win, second playoff final in as many years, done more than us to get out the league. Can't see them going down either.
better keep your eyes closed higgo

Re: FGR
Posted by: TranmereFan (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 19:34

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2 the moon
I'm in the minority and really don't have anything against FGR. they were in this league for 20 years so imo they deserved their shot at FL as much as anyone. ok a rich local businessman owns the club and is ploughing money the club couldn't generate off it's own steam. ring any bells?.

+1. The marmite club of football. Love 'em or hate 'em. Despite some of their annoying antics towards the end of the Wembley match, they deserved their win. They are a league club on merit, earning that right over the season, not just one game. We met some affable and genuine FGR supporters at Wembley and wished them well (okay, through gritted teeth!). If you want to feel better, re
ad their forum and you'll see the torture they're going through; we don't need to kick them when they're down.

They always “kicked” us regardless of us being up,down or anything in between...

Re: FGR
Posted by: Phil65 (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 19:43

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2 the moon
I'm in the minority and really don't have anything against FGR. they were in this league for 20 years so imo they deserved their shot at FL as much as anyone. ok a rich local businessman owns the club and is ploughing money the club couldn't generate off it's own steam. ring any bells?.

+1. The marmite club of football. Love 'em or hate 'em. Despite some of their annoying antics towards the end of the Wembley match, they deserved their win. They are a league club on merit, earning that right over the season, not just one game. We met some affable and genuine FGR supporters at Wembley and wished them well (okay, through gritted teeth!). If you want to feel better, re
ad their forum and you'll see the torture they're going through; we don't need to kick them when they're down.

They always “kicked” us regardless of us being up,down or anything in between...

smiling smiley We're out of reach of their faux leather boots now!

Re: FGR
Posted by: kennyspint (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 20:21

Of their few supporters who were subsidised to attend many at the station going home we obnoxious.

Re: FGR
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 16 October, 2017 22:31

It was the two matches at PP[particularly the first] which were the problem-i.e being kicked off the park

Re: FGR
Posted by: bheadlad (IP Logged)
Date: 17 October, 2017 00:16

Wasn’t there a player injured in the last PP game ?Harris which then depleted our squad before playing them in the final
If so they gained an unfair advantage and it wouldn’t put it past us if instructed to “play hard and so cheating would be about right....

Re: FGR
Posted by: Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)
Date: 17 October, 2017 13:19

I think FGR deserved their win and to go up. for some reason the Tranmere team bottled It they probably can't explain it to them selves why they did .they had a chance to be heroes and get us back in the FL but they blew it .plain and simple .if they were pensive wondering what tactics they would use they should have gone in hard from the beginning shaken them up but we where to nice to win a final

Re: FGR
Posted by: AndyMase (IP Logged)
Date: 20 October, 2017 07:54

I would love to be in the fL but not if it means watching us get beaten every week. Better to be competitive in a lower league than struggling to avoid relegation

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