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Corners
Posted by: CaptainFriendly (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 19:03

I figured corners deserved a thread in their own right. I thought I'd try and be as constructive as my tiny football mind will allow.

I think if we know there's a good chance it's not gonna beat the first man there should always be someone charging in on the near post every time regardless of the planned routine. The slightest flick can cause mayhem

Re: Corners
Posted by: TranmereFan (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 19:23

But who should take them do we think? Jennings?

Re: Corners
Posted by: Johntyponty (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 19:30

Well as mellon’s said it’s nitpicking to criticise corners he’s obviously happy with them all hitting the first man.

Re: Corners
Posted by: the kav (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 19:43

If we don't clear the first man why not have someone next to him to compete and flick on

Re: Corners
Posted by: Robbie126 (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 19:58

Hughes has been@#$%&at corners for 2 seasons now, Mickey his usual stubborn self for not letting anyone else take them. Then again all our set pieces are shocking which is totally inexcusable as they are one thing you can practice

Re: Corners
Posted by: Uglybob (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 20:02

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TranmereFan
But who should take them do we think? Jennings?
Anyone bar Hughes .

Re: Corners
Posted by: pez (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 20:33

Why not have Ridehalgh taking them?

We rely on his crosses to feed the strikers so from a dead ball situation he should at least be able to deliver a quality ball into the box surely?

Makes sense to me.

Anyone else think it might work?

Re: Corners
Posted by: Cybertron (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 20:51

Quote:
pez
Why not have Ridehalgh taking them?
We rely on his crosses to feed the strikers so from a dead ball situation he should at least be able to deliver a quality ball into the box surely?

Makes sense to me.

Anyone else think it might work?
him or Buxton...or maybe both depending on which side it is on.

Re: Corners
Posted by: BELMONT (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 22:37

It's not only corner's our set pieces are nothing to write home about sometimes you wonder if they do any in training.

Re: Corners
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 22:38

Ridehalghs delivery is worse than Hughes, we should just take em short

Re: Corners
Posted by: Kennel (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 22:40

I find it very frustrating when we mere spectators see the same player week in week out taking pathetic,useless corners which fail to beat the 1st defender time and time again.What on earth are the manager and coach doing about it? absolutely nothing, I despair.

Re: Corners
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 07 October, 2017 22:44

You miss the point Kennel, we don't know what we are looking at, when we see corners repeatedly hitting the first man we are missing the wider picture and those things that only ex players notice. He may hit the first man every time but he doesn't half do it consistently which is apparently good in football, and he has a nice technique of hitting the front post, no one else in this league can take corners like we do!

Re: Corners
Posted by: Johntyponty (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 07:03

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Higgosboots
You miss the point Kennel, we don't know what we are looking at, when we see corners repeatedly hitting the first man we are missing the wider picture and those things that only ex players notice. He may hit the first man every time but he doesn't half do it consistently which is apparently good in football, and he has a nice technique of hitting the front post, no one else in this league can take corners like we do!

Haha - don’t forget he gets 100% of his corners into the box...no one else can achieve those kind of stats. 4 extra movements of the ball into the box today thanks to mr consistent on the corners, you can’t buy that kind of player. Consider ourselves lucky to be witnessing it in person.

Such is MM’s myopia he won’t take any criticism of his son, sorry, his star set piece taker, Hughes.

Remind me, when does the league credit us with the extra league points for excursions into the box?

Re: Corners
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 10:21

In the bigger picture it is yet again an example of how we continue to make the same mistakes without anyone taking hold of the matter. A corner is an unchallenged kick from the same place (other than side of pitch) and so should be relatively easy to get right. It seems embematic of poor coaching that nothing improves.

It is the most obvious of a number of things such as our own mediocre defending of corners (and yes the goals against are low but this is because we are defensive rather than because we defend well) and a backline that sits deep and therefore does not pressure teams. To my mind it is a major factor in our midfield being poor at supporting forwards as they are pulled into the spaces in front of the back line

Re: Corners
Posted by: Old Rover (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 15:20

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DevonExile
In the bigger picture it is yet again an example of how we continue to make the same mistakes without anyone taking hold of the matter. A corner is an unchallenged kick from the same place (other than side of pitch) and so should be relatively easy to get right. It seems embematic of poor coaching that nothing improves.
It is the most obvious of a number of things such as our own mediocre defending of corners (and yes the goals against are low but this is because we are defensive rather than because we defend well) and a backline that sits deep and therefore does not pressure teams. To my mind it is a major factor in our midfield being poor at supporting forwards as they are pulled into the spaces in front of the back line
Spot on. As others have said all our dead ball kick's are Rubbish. Is there a football team on the planet worse than us at throwin's.

Re: Corners
Posted by: steve mungalls Highlights (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 15:24

Anyone but Hughes

Re: Corners
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 16:18

Quote:
Old Rover
Quote:
DevonExile
In the bigger picture it is yet again an example of how we continue to make the same mistakes without anyone taking hold of the matter. A corner is an unchallenged kick from the same place (other than side of pitch) and so should be relatively easy to get right. It seems embematic of poor coaching that nothing improves.
It is the most obvious of a number of things such as our own mediocre defending of corners (and yes the goals against are low but this is because we are defensive rather than because we defend well) and a backline that sits deep and therefore does not pressure teams. To my mind it is a major factor in our midfield being poor at supporting forwards as they are pulled into the spaces in front of the back line
Spot on. As others have said all our dead ball kick's are Rubbish. Is there a football team on the planet worse than us at throwin's.

We managed to complete a foul throw against Orient, even kids at a weekend can avoid fouls throws.

Re: Corners
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 18:11

Quote:
Johntyponty
Well as mellon’s said it’s nitpicking to criticise corners he’s obviously happy with them all hitting the first man.

No, because in his recent interview he admitted they weren't good, however it doesn't matter how many times you practice such things, you can't take them yourself as manager.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Re: Corners
Posted by: HardlyYardley (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 19:08

If someone is a professional player, especially one playing on their home ground, and they cannot take a decent corner then either they shouldn't be a professional footballer or they shouldn't be one who is taking corners. If a professional team does not have anyone who can take decent corners, what does that say about the manager, the coaching staff and the utter waste of time at training?

Re: Corners
Posted by: HardlyYardley (IP Logged)
Date: 08 October, 2017 20:54

The question of corners illustrates my main worry - that something went badly wrong over the summer and pre-season. Taking corners is very basic stuff. Of course, not every corner will be great, but any professional club should have a few players who are able to take corners. Were corners not discussed and takers decided pre-season? Were they not practiced? Same with free kicks. It's incredibly basic stuff. And if Norwood can't score from one-on-ones, either don't bother playing them to him or, much better, make him practice them till he improves. Obviously, we have players who aren't Messi and Ronaldo, but basic training should include the above and it appears not to have done. Another bugbear of mine is the non-use of Waring. What was the point in getting him if he won't be given a chance? For a team with such a poor scoring record not to tried a new striker seems ridiculous.

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