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The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 14:47

There is an interesting article on the BBC Footy Website in the NL section titled,, 'When promotion could mean relegation, National League trio may be forced to install grass pitches,'.. sorry but I don't know how to post the article on to the forum.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: the kav (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 14:57

The most interesting line in the article is ' fifa approved pitches' begs the question would the national league back down if it went to court ?

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Yiggsy (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 18:15

[www.bbc.co.uk]

does this work?

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Yiggsy (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 18:19

Just copy and paste the address line hkr. (right click on the address line then select "copy" then in your post right click "paste")

Oh and Happy Christmas which it will be now where you are!

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 18:25

Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't make sense that if a club wins promotion from the national League to League 2 with a plastic pitch that if they refuse to change to grass they are relegated to National North/South. Why can't they simply stay in National League if that league's rules allow it? Very strange and illogical?

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Hoots Mon (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 19:39

Quote:
coltran
Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't make sense that if a club wins promotion from the national League to League 2 with a plastic pitch that if they refuse to change to grass they are relegated to National North/South. Why can't they simply stay in National League if that league's rules allow it? Very strange and illogical?

+1

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Cybertron (IP Logged)
Date: 24 December, 2017 23:55

Quote:
coltran
Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't make sense that if a club wins promotion from the national League to League 2 with a plastic pitch that if they refuse to change to grass they are relegated to National North/South. Why can't they simply stay in National League if that league's rules allow it? Very strange and illogical?
I can only assume it is to make sure NL teams are 'serious' about getting promoted and meeting L2 criteria

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 00:27

Those 3 clubs have only 7 days left to state their intentions. Make your mind up time for sutton, bromley n maidstone.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 00:29

It does seem harsh that they could be threatened with relegation.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 00:30

Quote:
Yiggsy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42425377
does this work?

Thks yiggsy. Merry xmas.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 00:39

Tennis has a hard court season, clay court season and grass court season. How about footy having a synthetic 3G season and a grass season..LOL.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Man in the Midlands (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 07:07

Yes they should be relegated if the will not fulfill Football League rules. It would be unfair on teams promoted from NL north/south to be denied their rightful promotion by teams who will not comply to FL rules.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Yiggsy (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 10:06

erm.... whisper it quietly but if Sutton and Bromley don't sign up to dig up their pitches that puts us in a play-off place as it stands!

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: the kav (IP Logged)
Date: 25 December, 2017 11:53

66 percent of our away wins this season have been on plastic

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 26 December, 2017 08:46

Don’t see the big issue especially in league 1 & 2, far less chance of postponement, they are great surfaces to play football on. Interestingly the majority of Top pitches are part synthetic to ensure the best possible playing surface.

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Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 26 December, 2017 09:29

So why are clubs with plastic pitches allowed into the National Leagues in the first place? The ruling is totally nonsensical and illogical

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Higgosboots (IP Logged)
Date: 26 December, 2017 18:31

Quote:
coltran
So why are clubs with plastic pitches allowed into the National Leagues in the first place? The ruling is totally nonsensical and illogical

Because no artificial surfaces are a FL rule, they have artificial pitches to save on upkeep. All 3 will no doubt commit to a pitch change or ground share this week, but the financial reward still outweighs the cost. Interested to see if Sutton would go full time or stay part if promoted.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: CaptainFriendly (IP Logged)
Date: 27 December, 2017 20:15

Quote:
Man in the Midlands
Yes they should be relegated if the will not fulfill Football League rules. It would be unfair on teams promoted from NL north/south to be denied their rightful promotion by teams who will not comply to FL rules.

Well said mate. A point that seems obvious now you mention it

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 27 December, 2017 21:45

Quote:
CaptainFriendly
Quote:
Man in the Midlands
Yes they should be relegated if the will not fulfill Football League rules. It would be unfair on teams promoted from NL north/south to be denied their rightful promotion by teams who will not comply to FL rules.

Well said mate. A point that seems obvious now you mention it

It still doesn't make sense really. If we are expecting National League clubs to behave as League 2 clubs, why the hell are we allowing them to play in the National League with plastic pitches?
Also, if they win promotion to League 2 and are basically denied promotion, why aren't they effectively relegated to the National League (where plastic pitches are allowed) instead of National North or South. In my opinion, the thinking behind this crazy state of affairs is badly skewed. Also any club suffering relegation (effectively a double relegation) to National North/South under these circumstances would surely have such a decision overthrown in a Court of Law on business grounds. Usually, in the courts, common sense and fairness prevails.

Re: The 3G pitch debate
Posted by: Matt34 (IP Logged)
Date: 28 December, 2017 00:10

It would be easy to spare any L2 teams that would drop down, as a result of any club(s) with a 3G surface getting promoted the drop, then the club(s) with a 3G surface would stay put and the NLN and NLS teams going up would not be affected and could still stay up.

This would negate any reason to deny those teams a rightful promotion from the two feeder leagues.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

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