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Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Cybertron (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 21:31

I was looking at the table and the respective run-ins for each team. Realistically automatic promotion is very unlikely, it would need Macc to implode even if we win all our games they would need to fail to win 4 or 5 games, it looks like it is theirs to lose. So it is the playoffs that we are probably going to be subjected too again, and finishing 2nd or 3rd has the benefit of a game less.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: martyd12 (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 21:45

I agree with that assessment. Looking at the fixtures I would still expect Macclesfield to be champions but I take Sutton to have the slightly easier run in. I think they will be the top two. We really do need to be 3rd and probably our greatest rivals are Aldershot. I do not discount Boreham Wood. They have absolutely nothing to lose and can play with abandon and cock a snook at everyone! If they were to get promotion what a story that would be!
I am still confident we can do it but it will be a nail biting end to the season!

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Aldo'smuzzy (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 21:52

Think we've got to focus on getting top 3 and we should be able to do it. If that takes us to the title, great, but I doubt it will. Just hope if we go back to Wembley we treat it more like a do or die relegation battle than a shot at glory - might help us avoid bottling it on the big stage again and, if we lose, it'd feel like a relegation anyway.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 21:55

Yes playoffs for certain ,can’t see Macc losing 4/5games even Wrexham will be tough over 2legs .its white knuckle time fast approaching .as Martyid 12 says watch Boreham Wood and I say beware Bromley to

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: jonesy792 (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 22:26

Even the play offs are not a given at this stage looking at how tight the chasing pack are.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Wirral Mike (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 22:35

I don't think there's any 'two legged' ties this time 50 years against Wrexham or anyone else. My understanding is that if you're 2nd or 3rd you just have one home game to play and if you win it you're at Wembley for the PO Final

If you're 4th or 5th you have to first win one home game (against 7th or 6th) and then win one away game (at 3rd or 2nd)

If you're 6th or 7th you have to win two away games to make the final

So it's still only four games to be played, like last year, before Wembley

If I have got it wrong then this forum can please correct me of course

If automatic is looking unrealistic, and I think it is but would love to be wrong, then 2nd or 3rd are obviously the best slots to have, two massive games coming up against B'wood and 'the Shots'

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: DevonExile (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 23:02

All along there has been a general assumption that teams like Macclesfield, and Sutton with the lesser resources would falter.That hope is now looking shallow and we need a run of good results if we are to gain any sort of play off place.As for second and third we would have to do what so often we fail to do and that is beat a key rival at home when we meet aAldershot.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Wirral Mike (IP Logged)
Date: 07 March, 2018 23:11

Totally agree with you Devon, we really need to hold our nerve against Aldershot - to say nothing of not losing at Borehamwood - and yes 2nd or 3rd are the best but, as Jonesy rightly said, it's not for sure that we'll even be in play offs, never mind 2nd or 3rd....it's all to play for now and very different from last year when the only question was would we be 1st or 2nd...

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: 853OKG (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 00:24

Since I have been alive, tranmere have never done promotion the easy way.

I personally think we could struggle to get second or third but should get into top seven.

Really hope I am being unduly pessimistic, especially with two ex FGR players who know what promotion games are about.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: CaptainFriendly (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 07:42

Quote:
DevonExile
All along there has been a general assumption that teams like Macclesfield, and Sutton with the lesser resources would falter.That hope is now looking shallow and we need a run of good results if we are to gain any sort of play off place.As for second and third we would have to do what so often we fail to do and that is beat a key rival at home when we meet aAldershot.

To be fair, if there was such an assumption, it would have been correct. Macclesfield faltered in a big way and we were there at the right time to strike, but we didn't take the chance.

I'd be surprised if fylde didn't sneak into 7th

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 09:13

Can't really disagree with the realistic expectations stated above. Highly unlikely that we will win the league even if we win all our remaining games. Absolutely imperative that we finish 2nd or 3rd to get distinct advantage in play-offs. We really have blown an excellent chance of winning the league though as it's been there for the taking this season.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 09:36

On reflection I have to agree ,should make playoffs but not a done deal these next 2games away will give us an idea what might happen ,the Aldershot game bothers me ,have we got the bottle for it or collapse as they did against Macc and Wembley last season .with rovers when the going gets tough .the tough don’t get going ,it’s getting harder to escape the NL each season now ,next season will/should see Salford city in the NL .what money will the class of 92/4 throw at them ,they want FL football and have the money .

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: coltran (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 09:52

Agree 50years a Rover, successful teams are the ones that win the important games. In some ways, if were to lose a game, it would have been better to have lost at home to Ebbsfleet than Macclesfield. That defeat to Macc will have been the killer blow to our title hopes. As for Salford, they may well not get promoted as its looking increasingly likely that they will be in the play-offs. Harrogate are the in-form team in NLN at the moment.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: 853OKG (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 10:47

Maybe it was just my impression but Macclesfield successfully stopped Tranmere from playing out from the back resulting in long ball tactic from Davies. This was ineffective. If other teams press as much as Macclesfield did, and stop Tranmere playing a passing game, I think it will be a struggle if they get into the playoffs.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Claytonne&Clark (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 11:30

If Macclesfield continue their current form they will get to 89 points; if we win the last 10 we'll get 91 points. We have the better goal difference, so if they continue their form we can afford 1 draw. If it drips slightly (say, they get 18 rather than 21 points from their last 11 games) if starts to look possible (8 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat). I doubt we will get that's points haul, but it's slightly too earlier to say the title has gone.

I would actually wonder if finishing 4th would be best. We would have to play at home to one of the sides beneath us to get to the semi's, but should fancy our chances against a team in 7th. If the semi is Tranmere-Aldershot, we feel the pressure of our league position and the home crowd, against a side with less pressure and confidence after winning in the 1st round. If the semi is Aldershot-Tranmere, there's more pressure and less confidence for Aldershot, and we'll have had the confidence of winning play-off matches and also not have the expectations of the large crowd.

Over the years, many teams have had first-leg nerves in the play-offs and performed better in the 2nd leg when it's too late - we've often done that (and so did Aldershot last season). The one-off nature I think will benefit the side who plays away in the semi's. It will be interesting to see against the divisions how many of the sides in 2nd/3rd actually get to the final.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 12:01

Next 3 away games for the Rovers are Daggers, Borehamwood and Dover. Daggers beginning to show signs of improvement and Borehamwood n Dover are no mugs. Gonna be tough for Rovers to get the top spot.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: Rovers90 (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 12:28

The bad start in theory is going to cost us in my opinion. While it is possible then i will have optimism, after that 2nd or 3rd are a must and avoid the whole 4th-7th battle.

Hopefully if we do end up at Wembley or in a Semi Final at Prenton Park we can keep it low key to the regulars can do without the big hype and being let down lark (Sm22)

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 12:48

the bad start and our away form is what has cost us. macc have won 11 away from home, sutton 10 away from home and shots 9 away from home. we have only won 5 on our travels(and 3 of them 5 were on the plastic )..even though I don't get to see us play, the summer recruitment seems to have been poor and we have missed tollitt for a large part of the season. I don't buy into this poor pre season that we had and don't think we can use that as an excuse, and wont put that down as a reason if we don't go up. if we could have beaten macc then we would be in with a decent shot at top spot. wont give up yet though, only when its mathematically impossible.



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Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: velico (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 13:57

this club has not got a promotion in it. it will be here a very long time.

Re: Realistic expectation for the rest of the season
Posted by: 853OKG (IP Logged)
Date: 08 March, 2018 14:16

Quote:
velico
this club has not got a promotion in it. it will be here a very long time.

Is that you Goosed?

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