It Is So Disappointing
A Cross JT?
By Since66
October 27 2008
It is disappointing that the unbeaten League run has come to and end. 86 and out. It is disappointing that Chelsea succumbed to another lucky Liverpool goal, Alonso's shot on ten minutes taking a wicked deflection off the hapless Bossie. It is disappointing that Chelsea had no idea how to overcome a Liverpool 4-6 formation for the best part of 80 minutes, once Liverpool took the lead.
It is disappointing Chelsea had no plan B. It is disappointing that Chelsea DID not create one worthwile chance on target and our only decent chance came in the second-half when Ashley Cole shot wide after being played in from a Di Santo header. Deco, Lampard and Malouda had nowhere to go as Liverpool pressed and pressed the midfield. Kalou and Malouda couldn't get their games together, so it was left for Ashley Cole and Bosingwa to provide the width once Chelsea managed to get the ball wide. Having said that it was a surprise that both Malouda AND Kalou were withdrawn ten minutes into the second-half to be replaced by Di Santo and Belletti. Liverpool had two more chances - a Gerrard shot which Cech tipped over brilliantly and Alonso hit the post from a free-kick. In a game like yesterday's, Chelsea missed the services of Essien, Joe Cole, Michael Ballack and Didier Drogba. There really isn't anymore to be said except that Chelsea will have to pick themselves up, dust themselves down and get ready for another top of the table battle at Hull City on Wednesday night. Being an 'old-time' Chelsea fan, I can take days like yesterday like a duck to water, as I have said many times before, I WAS THERE WHEN WE WERE S**T. Chelsea: Cech, Bosingwa (Sinclair 84), Carvalho, Terry (c), A Cole, Mikel, Kalou (Belletti 57), Deco, Lampard, Malouda (Di Santo 57), Anelka Booked: Malouda 53, A Cole 55, Deco 78 Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Agger, Carragher, Aurelio, Alonso, Mascherano, Riera (Hyypia 89), Gerrard, Kuyt (Lucas 87), Keane (Babel 59) Goal: Alonso 10 Booked: Riera, Gerrard 38, Mascherano 64 
It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: 50 Years Over 100 Years (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 10:05
It Is So Disappointing
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: The N5er (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 10:06
despite loving to wind you chels up let me be the first to offer congratulations on such a great record and one that will no doubt stand for many years..
It Is So NOT Disappointing
Posted by: red mersey (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 10:14
WERE YOU WATCHING THE SAME GAME YOU NOB
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 10:18
What the same game that Liverpool won 1-0 had two other chances and Chelsea didn't create anything. The same game where Liverpool pressed and pressed didn't give Lampard, Deco or Malouda any space!!!
I think so
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Dave1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 10:41
may be a blessing in disguise. There now wont be the aded pressure on every home game to keep up our record. It may allow us to play with more freedom.
Also franco di santo looks very impressive, looking forward to seeing him start against burnley. Looks a real gem.
Also franco di santo looks very impressive, looking forward to seeing him start against burnley. Looks a real gem.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: ched78 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 11:20
can i just say two things please regarding yesterdays deserved win . 1, your manager is a belter , shame hes got to manage for a bunch of fans like chelseas , spoilt unknowledgable plastic flag fliers.2, yeeeeaahhhhhhh get in , loved seein all those woman an children crying in the stands , wwuuuhhhaaaarrr
what shame!
Posted by: tshiba (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 12:30
it very sad that chesea can make us feel pain like that, i watched the game yesterday but until now i still feel angry for the first time of life being humiliated by liverpool and by mistake, by the way that lost will hepl scolari to correct the team for next games, and we need also to have another striker Analka is good but not good enougth when it came to a game like the yesterday one,...
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 12:55
tshiba
Thats the beauty of supporting Chelsea - THE GLORIOUS UNPREDICTABILITY!!
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 18:24
Disappointing indeed!
We had the great majority of the possession and territorial advantage BUT....but that´s worth nothing if you can´t score.
Liverpool´s defensive tactics worked and were fortunate that they came off with the result from a deflected goal - but you make your own luck I suppose.
Still, at least we won´t have everyone in the media going on and on about the record anymore (although now it will change to everytime Liverpool feature "Liverpool, who broke Chelsea´s record...." blah blah blah..!).
Two things re ourselves really stuck out for me:
(1) Without Drogba in certain situations we were toothless. This was a match crying out for him.
(2) Di Santo - at 18 years of age he impressed me by how he wasn´t overawed in the slightest - and actually was more useful than Anelka when he had come on.
Still, Drogba will be back in a week - a few matches to get match sharp. The team, in a strange way, will probably benefit from this result and will be more determined than ever.
One more thought, we are still in control of our own destiny; IF Liverpool don´t fade then a win at Anfield for us would still put us top of the league if things stayed the same until then.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
We had the great majority of the possession and territorial advantage BUT....but that´s worth nothing if you can´t score.
Liverpool´s defensive tactics worked and were fortunate that they came off with the result from a deflected goal - but you make your own luck I suppose.
Still, at least we won´t have everyone in the media going on and on about the record anymore (although now it will change to everytime Liverpool feature "Liverpool, who broke Chelsea´s record...." blah blah blah..!).
Two things re ourselves really stuck out for me:
(1) Without Drogba in certain situations we were toothless. This was a match crying out for him.
(2) Di Santo - at 18 years of age he impressed me by how he wasn´t overawed in the slightest - and actually was more useful than Anelka when he had come on.
Still, Drogba will be back in a week - a few matches to get match sharp. The team, in a strange way, will probably benefit from this result and will be more determined than ever.
One more thought, we are still in control of our own destiny; IF Liverpool don´t fade then a win at Anfield for us would still put us top of the league if things stayed the same until then.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: It Is So NOT Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 18:53
Quote:red mersey
WERE YOU WATCHING THE SAME GAME YOU NOB
What a plank!
Who is this muppet?!!!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 18:54
Ballack and Drogba still out for another ten days, Joe Cole may be in contention for weds night at Hull
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 19:36
Well it will take Drogba a few games to get match sharp when he gets back anyway....mind you, when he is finally 100% we will probably have the best Chelsea team EVER.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 19:39
We needed him yesterday - but thats gone, done and dusted!!!
Roll on Hull
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 19:42
Liked Di Santo´s attitude when he came on.
He needs to get a bit stronger but then again he´s only 18. He´s clever with his feet as well.
Not the solution for now but Without doubt a forward for the future for us.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
He needs to get a bit stronger but then again he´s only 18. He´s clever with his feet as well.
Not the solution for now but Without doubt a forward for the future for us.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 20:16
Have always liked Di Santo - shame his header to set up Ashley was wasted!
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 20:41
I was going to eat some grapes whilst reading that report, but they were equally sour.
"Lucky goal"?? Well took a slight deflection, yes, but how many of fat franks do?
4-6 formation?
4-4-1-1 actually, but to anyone who doesn't understand football it may look like 4-6.
Apart from our "other two" chances, Kuyt and Masch looked for passes when they should have shot and if the two slick passes from Gerrard weren't slighty over hit then it could have been embarrassing for you's.
As for your lack of chances, that was down to cool defending and a midfield that works just as hard coming back as they do going forward.
The injuries???
Not too much of a mention the other week against Boro was there?
And remember, no Torres or Skrtle either.
"Lucky goal"?? Well took a slight deflection, yes, but how many of fat franks do?
4-6 formation?
4-4-1-1 actually, but to anyone who doesn't understand football it may look like 4-6.
Apart from our "other two" chances, Kuyt and Masch looked for passes when they should have shot and if the two slick passes from Gerrard weren't slighty over hit then it could have been embarrassing for you's.
As for your lack of chances, that was down to cool defending and a midfield that works just as hard coming back as they do going forward.
The injuries???
Not too much of a mention the other week against Boro was there?
And remember, no Torres or Skrtle either.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 20:52
How you can say the match report is sour grapes is beyond me.
Our lack of chances created as well as your stonewall defensive tactics were clearly mentioned.
There will always be a groundswell of synchophantic media on your side (God knows why! - or probably because WE lost) but it´s one thing going at us on the attack like for example the Mancs would have tried, and it´s another putting 10 or 11 men behind the ball and hitting on the break. Sure, you won but you were hardly the charge of the light brigade were you? So why should you expect us to be praising you to the hilt?
Think on this;
We could have easily adopted the same tactics as yourselves and if we had, you would have seen a totally boring 0-0.
Can you imagine US coming to Anfield and doing the same?
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Our lack of chances created as well as your stonewall defensive tactics were clearly mentioned.
There will always be a groundswell of synchophantic media on your side (God knows why! - or probably because WE lost) but it´s one thing going at us on the attack like for example the Mancs would have tried, and it´s another putting 10 or 11 men behind the ball and hitting on the break. Sure, you won but you were hardly the charge of the light brigade were you? So why should you expect us to be praising you to the hilt?
Think on this;
We could have easily adopted the same tactics as yourselves and if we had, you would have seen a totally boring 0-0.
Can you imagine US coming to Anfield and doing the same?
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 21:02
THe 4-6 formation was the 'trick' statement until now no-one fell for.
In the first half Chelsea were the best footballing team. We played them off the park - they got the lucky goal and it was lucky - I have admitted that Cech saved brilliantly from Gerrard and Alonso hit the post and said that Liverpool created the 3 best chances of the game - we didn't simple.
Obviously these scousers aren't used to praise - however reluctant - they just want more!!!
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In the first half Chelsea were the best footballing team. We played them off the park - they got the lucky goal and it was lucky - I have admitted that Cech saved brilliantly from Gerrard and Alonso hit the post and said that Liverpool created the 3 best chances of the game - we didn't simple.
Obviously these scousers aren't used to praise - however reluctant - they just want more!!!
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 21:37
THe 4-6 formation was the 'trick' statement until now no-one fell for.
What until someone pointed out about tactics to you?
Dixon, the report is sour grapes because it makes it sound like the result only happened due to chelski's bad play rather than us getting tactic's spot on and playing well.
Personally I think too many of you believed all the rubbish after the Boro match, where they were very poor, not you being awesome.
I've hated it in the past when we have even had defenders in midfield to shut out the opposition, but this was very different.
Not only were we keeping you out, but we were looking likely to add to the goal and not by a long punt upfield to a lone striker either. Ffs even Masch our defensive midfield player was clean through on goal in the second half.
Now if we were being ultra defensive, do you think he would have been allowed to do that?
The mancs in your opinion may have gone all out attack, but did they break your record? Don't think so.
Do you go all out attack in Europe at places like Barcelona? Don't think so.
If you feel we put all 11 men behind the ball I suggest you watch it again.
What until someone pointed out about tactics to you?
Dixon, the report is sour grapes because it makes it sound like the result only happened due to chelski's bad play rather than us getting tactic's spot on and playing well.
Personally I think too many of you believed all the rubbish after the Boro match, where they were very poor, not you being awesome.
I've hated it in the past when we have even had defenders in midfield to shut out the opposition, but this was very different.
Not only were we keeping you out, but we were looking likely to add to the goal and not by a long punt upfield to a lone striker either. Ffs even Masch our defensive midfield player was clean through on goal in the second half.
Now if we were being ultra defensive, do you think he would have been allowed to do that?
The mancs in your opinion may have gone all out attack, but did they break your record? Don't think so.
Do you go all out attack in Europe at places like Barcelona? Don't think so.
If you feel we put all 11 men behind the ball I suggest you watch it again.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 21:51
Actually Dixon didn't write the report I did!!!
Obviously you 'bin dippers' havent got the sense of humour I thought you had.
I thought 4-6 was better was different and better than 4-5-1.
Read the report again CS and you will see that you got the credit although I was sick sick and sick again giving it to you
Its called being objective!!!
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Obviously you 'bin dippers' havent got the sense of humour I thought you had.
I thought 4-6 was better was different and better than 4-5-1.
Read the report again CS and you will see that you got the credit although I was sick sick and sick again giving it to you
Its called being objective!!!
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 21:56
Quote:Captain Scarlet
THe 4-6 formation was the 'trick' statement until now no-one fell for.
What until someone pointed out about tactics to you? .
Well for many periods of the game it WAS 4-6-0! I suggest you watch the match again. The only time it changed was when you hit us on the break. It´s not necessarily something to be ashamed off – your tactics worked – but as I said earlier, don´t try and make out you had any intention of taking the game to us – and as I asked you before, do you imagine US coming to Anfield with those tactics?
Quote:Captain Scarlet
Dixon, the report is sour grapes because it makes it sound like the result only happened due to chelski's bad play rather than us getting tactic's spot on and playing well. .
Playing a VERY DEFENSIVE game well, yes.
Quote:Captain Scarlet
Personally I think too many of you believed all the rubbish after the Boro match, where they were very poor, not you being awesome. .
Probably a bit of both to be honest.
Quote:Captain Scarlet
I've hated it in the past when we have even had defenders in midfield to shut out the opposition, but this was very different.
Not only were we keeping you out, but we were looking likely to add to the goal and not by a long punt upfield to a lone striker either. Ffs even Masch our defensive midfield player was clean through on goal in the second half.
Now if we were being ultra defensive, do you think he would have been allowed to do that? .
Well obviously as the urgency to score grew for us we were always likely to be exposed more at the back and be hit on the break – that was the whole idea of Rafa´s tactics!
Quote:Captain Scarlet
The mancs in your opinion may have gone all out attack, but did they break your record? Don't think so. .
Well now we will never know will we? It could have been Hull City! Who knows? The point is that the likes of the Mancs at least are willing to have a go at us and make a game of it at the Bridge.
Quote:Captain Scarlet
Do you go all out attack in Europe at places like Barcelona? Don't think so.
If you feel we put all 11 men behind the ball I suggest you watch it again.
You miss the point (see above) . And watch the match again.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 22:51
Actually Dixon didn't write the report I did!!!
I know you did and I never said Dixon wrote it. Surprised you want to take credit though.
I thought 4-6 was better was different and better than 4-5-1.
Dixon. If you think that when you attack we are going to leave five players upfield and if we don't thats defensive, then fine.
If you can't be bothered to watch the match again then at least watch MOTD 2.
Hansen clearly showed that we had a line of four across the middle (against your five), who had all got back to defend as they should do. Basic's of coaching is that when you haven't got the ball, you get behind it.
There wasn't a large group of players staying back as a very defensive side would do. Even Gerrard was further forward than normal.
Either you or soft lad mentioned that you had no plan B. Well we do.
If you wanted to attack then why play five across the midfield? Why not play 2 or 3 upfront or were you being cautious?
In answer to your question, yes you have come to Anfield and defended in the past.
Now answer mine. Do you go all out attack away at Barcelona etc?
I know you did and I never said Dixon wrote it. Surprised you want to take credit though.
I thought 4-6 was better was different and better than 4-5-1.
Dixon. If you think that when you attack we are going to leave five players upfield and if we don't thats defensive, then fine.
If you can't be bothered to watch the match again then at least watch MOTD 2.
Hansen clearly showed that we had a line of four across the middle (against your five), who had all got back to defend as they should do. Basic's of coaching is that when you haven't got the ball, you get behind it.
There wasn't a large group of players staying back as a very defensive side would do. Even Gerrard was further forward than normal.
Either you or soft lad mentioned that you had no plan B. Well we do.
If you wanted to attack then why play five across the midfield? Why not play 2 or 3 upfront or were you being cautious?
In answer to your question, yes you have come to Anfield and defended in the past.
Now answer mine. Do you go all out attack away at Barcelona etc?
Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 22:59
Nothing wrong with what I wrote - its the truth
Last time we went to Barcelona we drew 2-2 and attacked!!!
You are right we didn't have a plan B..... we havent had a plan B since god knows when!!!
CS enjoy your time at the top...... it wont last long
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Last time we went to Barcelona we drew 2-2 and attacked!!!
You are right we didn't have a plan B..... we havent had a plan B since god knows when!!!
CS enjoy your time at the top...... it wont last long
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Re: It Is So Disappointing
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/10/2008 23:02
Here´s to that!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.