Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!


By Slevin Morgan
December 2 2009

Despite the claims of some fans, Lincoln City are not progressing under Chris Sutton. Many cite Peter Jackson as the reason for the struggling, but Sutton has guided the Imps to a League position that is five places lower than when Jackson left.

 

2,569 fans, 138 of which came from Burslem, were in attendance when Lincoln City were effectively confirmed as relegation candidates. It was the lowest home League crowd since August 26th 2002 when only 2,444 saw the Imps comfortably beat Macclesfield Town. The worrying thing about that number is that it will almost certainly keep going down unless things change quickly.

It's the biggest sign yet that Lincoln City fans are not happy with what is going on down at Sincil Bank, and Tuesday night won't exactly do much to convince those in attendance that it's worth staying at Sincil Bank much longer.

Whether it's the fact that the Imps have only won once in the League with a goal from opening play since Sutton arrived, or whether it's that he brings on Pearce when we're losing, seemingly oblivious to the fact that Pearce spent the vast majority of his career in defence and that alone indicates that he himself doesn't have faith in his ability to make him up front.

Or how about the players who have won the two FA Cup games. These players were near enough the same squad that Sutton had in his first two games, so he's already seem those players win 4 games.......yet he then goes and changes it more often than Katie Price acts like the talentless media-whore that she is. What about when all these loanees go back to their parent club? You'll be forced to play the squad that you've effectively told "You're good enough for non-League games, but not for the first team?"

This supposed mass clearout that will happen during January looks less and less likely, simply because who would want players such as Swaibu and Hone, people who can't even get on the bench for a League Two side battling relegation? Hone used to be linked to Wolverhampton Wanderers, not he'll be lucky to get scouted for clubs in divisions two or three divisions below League Two.

Then there is the fact he is bringing in loanees that aren't actually much better than what we already had. Nathan Baker just hits the ball as hard he can in any direction without actually looking where he's kicking it.....we already had Janos Kovacs for that. Or how about Eric Lichaj, a young left back who wants to prove himself.....but we already had Luca Coleman-Carr for that. It's all well and good trying to replace members of the squad with loan players, but you have to take into account that the players you bring in generally need to be better than those you already have at the club, something which we only really have with Torres and Herd.

Some fans you tell you that you just need to be patient, but we are in a relegation battle people, we simply can't rely on Grimsby and Darlington constantly failing to win. With a very difficult month ahead, we will struggle to pick up points if we don't improve, and even just one Grimsby win will put major pressure on us.

Make no mistake, we are not invulnerable to relegation and that is the way we are heading. Spin it however you want, claim that the defence in improving (even though it is still conceding), claim that Sutton is trying to do things that right way, but the FACT is that we now haven't won in nearly two months against anyone from our division. Yes, we beat two non-League sides, but as it currently stands, that just looks like good practice for next season.

Blame Peter Jackson as much as you want, but the FACT is that were 17th when Jackson left, we are now 22nd under Sutton. If you think that is progress and/or an improvement that you must be looking forward to a season (at least) in the Blue Square Premier. Jackson left having won 40% of the games he had taken charge in the League this season, Sutton has only won 22.22%.....maybe it's not the squad.....maybe it is the tactics.

Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: theimps.tk (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 00:25

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Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: rottweiler (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 08:19

The Board said Jackson had lost the fans. Obviously they only read the Vitals site, read many others and it appears already that the fans confidence in Sutton is VERY low.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Helgy. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 08:46

Quote:
rottweiler
The Board said Jackson had lost the fans. Obviously they only read the Vitals site, read many others and it appears already that the fans confidence in Sutton is VERY low.

I doubt that they just read the Vitals site and based their sacking on that ,in the trust letter plenty of fans were going up to the trust people and complaining.
Rome was not built in a day and it will take time unfortunately there is no miracle cure.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Kate Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 08:49

Looking at the constant change of side under Sutton, we won the first two games that Sutton had in charge where he had Jackson's players, as soon as he brought his in we stopped winning. If someone thinks that changing the squad in January is going to be a "miracle cure" then the FACT that the only games we've won under him were with Jackson's players says it all.

I don't think Watts, Lichaj or Baker have actually played when we've won in the League.

Good Luck, Mr Gorsky


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Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Helgy. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 09:08

He does seem to monkey around with the team too much.
The old addage that you never change a winning team seems to be lost on him.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Kate Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 09:24

I was wrong (yes, I know you rarely hear me say that), Watts and Pulis have played in City wins in the League.

However, out of the 11 players he's brought in, the rest have yet to play when we've won in the League. Baker, Lichaj, Gordon, Smith, Torres (hasn't played in a League win since he came back), Facey, Herd, Gilmour and Pearce are not making us win.

It's all well and good bringing in all these new players, but when they don't help you win after they've replaced players who do know how to win, then you're asking for trouble.

Good Luck, Mr Gorsky


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Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Cambridgeimp (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 09:25

Watts definately made his debut in the Aldershot game and played on Saturday. I think he is by far the best player Sutton as brought to the Club so far. I do question all the others except for Herd who looked good on Saturday. I noticed Heath didnt play last night and thought he looked good on Saturday, was he injured??

Very disapointing result and I feel sorry for those who went, sometimes its an advantage living 100 miles away.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Kate Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 09:33

Heath is a strange one because he's not even making the bench when he's fully fit. No point in him being here really.

I think Lichaj's dangerous from throws, but is otherwise pretty useless. Baker just boots it and doesn't care where it goes and Pulis was just crap. Don't think I'll judge Facey that much on one game considering he's barely been playing before last night.

Good Luck, Mr Gorsky


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Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 10:44

While I agree with some of what you are saying, everything you say is undermined by a crass comment suggesting that Lichaj is pretty useles apart from throw ins?

I'm sure you were at the game last night...

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: Kate Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 10:50

Yes, I was there. He made a few runs that were the length of the pitch, but that's pretty easy when their players were parting like the Red Sea. I could run from one end of the pitch to the other if I had no-one challenging me.

There was also a run in the second half that I believe was straight from our box to the other box and the momentum was with him, and instead of shooting, he played it straight to Facey, who probably only missed because he wasn't expecting it.

Good Luck, Mr Gorsky


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Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: jonny07 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 13:50

Who is to say we would not of sunk lower with Jackson before he got the boot.

Change was needed, change we got and he is trying to find a set of players and system that works. I for one will put my hands up and say I wasnt happy when he was pronounced manager BUT I like the guy and what he is trying to do.

I think we should all wait for the end of January to see what we have got rid of player wise and who we have got in to replace them.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: I Blame Paul Mayo (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2009 15:56

Lichaj was awesome last night, did well in both attacking and defensive areas! im sorry nathan but i think your completely wrong about Lichaj.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: davidimp (IP Logged)
Date: 03/12/2009 19:32

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Nathan Jackson
Yes, I was there. He made a few runs that were the length of the pitch, but that's pretty easy when their players were parting like the Red Sea. I could run from one end of the pitch to the other if I had no-one challenging me.
There was also a run in the second half that I believe was straight from our box to the other box and the momentum was with him, and instead of shooting, he played it straight to Facey, who probably only missed because he wasn't expecting it.
Just watched the highlights of the game and Facey clears points his hands towards his feet and looks at Lichaj to play the ball to him, just a bad miss for me.
Maybe Lichaj should of shot but Facey was free in the area and well placed.
Hopefully Facey will do better on Saturday.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: oldimpsfan (IP Logged)
Date: 03/12/2009 21:49

Not that it matters probably but hasn't Facey said he is off the pace and knows it? Hasn't played a proper hard game for months. Let us see if he can get up to pace and improve.

Oh wait. We don't allow that.................

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: davidimp (IP Logged)
Date: 03/12/2009 22:25

Was only his 5th game of the season and his first since he played in the first round of the fa cup.
Was frustrated with him at the time but I'm willing to give him a chance. At least he was there to have the chances.
Some people want INSTANT answers.

Re: Progress is NOT being made, end of conversation!
Posted by: londonimp (IP Logged)
Date: 04/12/2009 12:01

We are a JOKE now.

SUTTON-Pick 11 players and give them 3-4 games together!

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