BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
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By Since66
December 1 2008
Three home games against our closest rivals and ONLY 1 point from nine. Thank God for our away record that’s all I can say. Yet again Chelsea were let down by poor officiating from the Assistant and the Referee. Its so frustrating when these officials can see one thing one minute and ignore a blatant offside the next.
That’s exactly what happened yesterday when Kalou was ruled offside when he was on and Van Persie was allowed to equalise for Arsenal when he was off!! The decision by Mike Dean left Big Phil bewildered and calling nay demanding an apology from the official for his mistake. Unfortunately apologies won’t change the result. Chelsea’s second-half performance was so inept and lightweight - Deco was all over the place, the wasteful Malouda and Kalou were up to their usual standard of rubbish - Mr A simply has to get the chequebook out when the January window opens in a month’s time. If he doesn’t, then I can see Chelsea dropping down the league faster than a falling rock. It just doesn’t seem possible that after a thoroughly enjoyable and entertaining first-half how Chelsea changed so much in the 2nd. Every knew that this game would be 100% better than last week’s fare against the Toon, because Arsenal don’t do defensive. It’s a shame that the officials had to spoil the game with their incorrect decisions. Big Phil has an awful lot of soul searching to do, to get these players back on track especially at home. Not long ago we were unbeaten at home for 4 1/2 years in the league - now we have lost twice in the space of four games. Out of the Carling Cup, struggling in the Champions League and awful at home in the League with the FA Cup to start in January against Southend United - Is BIG Phil Scolari THE right man for Chelsea Football club?
BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: 50 Years Over 100 Years (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 16:01
BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 16:11
Didn't get to the game due to circumstannces beyond my control. Glad in a way - was able to watch in the 2nd half in an alcoholic blur - numb the pain like.
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Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 17:01
(Just saw your email - sorry for consequent delayed response).
The match:
Yes, the decisions on Kalou´s non-offside, the pen on Anelka and RVP´s goal that was offide were extremely galling (Same on Gallas push on Tal Haim last season before scoring - WHY does it always happen against us when we play them!!!!).
That said, was very disappointed with our performance in the 2nd half. Arsenal actually didn´t play that well either - but that´s no consolation is it?!!!
The trouble is Big Phil IS limited by what options he can take at the moment. He wants at least 3 different systems but that flexibility depends upon having at least 2 senior forwards fit SILMULTANEOULSY - which he hasn´t had since the beginning of the season. (In fact, not once has he been able to play our strongest line-up this season - Cech, Bosingwa, Terry, Percy, A.Cole, Mikel, Essien, Lampard, Malouda, Drogba, Anelka). We need players back.
Time to dust ourselves off and get back on with it.
I´m not too concerned about Liverpool anyway - it´s the mancs racking up points we have to worry about.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
The match:
Yes, the decisions on Kalou´s non-offside, the pen on Anelka and RVP´s goal that was offide were extremely galling (Same on Gallas push on Tal Haim last season before scoring - WHY does it always happen against us when we play them!!!!).
That said, was very disappointed with our performance in the 2nd half. Arsenal actually didn´t play that well either - but that´s no consolation is it?!!!
The trouble is Big Phil IS limited by what options he can take at the moment. He wants at least 3 different systems but that flexibility depends upon having at least 2 senior forwards fit SILMULTANEOULSY - which he hasn´t had since the beginning of the season. (In fact, not once has he been able to play our strongest line-up this season - Cech, Bosingwa, Terry, Percy, A.Cole, Mikel, Essien, Lampard, Malouda, Drogba, Anelka). We need players back.
Time to dust ourselves off and get back on with it.
I´m not too concerned about Liverpool anyway - it´s the mancs racking up points we have to worry about.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: shkumbini (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 17:42
u ceski fans should acept somethink or maybe u are idiots that can not remember more than a week before.
have u forget that u have won a league cup against us by an offside goal.have u forget a goal fron van persy from an onside position and the ref.said it was an offside goal.have u gorgot last seasen game at ur home against us,a goal from ur drogba u know was offside.so why u can not understund that we have rights to win sometimes as u. u have won manytimes in this way.u have won maybe a tittle in this way.
ARSENAL FOR LIFE-MAYBE THIS SEASEN U WILL NOW THAT U ARE NOT A BIG CULB IN THAT CALLED BIGS 4.
have u forget that u have won a league cup against us by an offside goal.have u forget a goal fron van persy from an onside position and the ref.said it was an offside goal.have u gorgot last seasen game at ur home against us,a goal from ur drogba u know was offside.so why u can not understund that we have rights to win sometimes as u. u have won manytimes in this way.u have won maybe a tittle in this way.
ARSENAL FOR LIFE-MAYBE THIS SEASEN U WILL NOW THAT U ARE NOT A BIG CULB IN THAT CALLED BIGS 4.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 17:50
Drogba WASNT offside in the CC Final.
And try using paragraphs FFS!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
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And try using paragraphs FFS!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:12:02:09:33:28 by dixon9.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 17:52
Re the match again:
Even though Phil is limited on his options, we still have a side that should have beat Arsenal.
Although with the Kalou non-offide, the Anelka pen we would have almost certainly brushed them aside.
"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Even though Phil is limited on his options, we still have a side that should have beat Arsenal.
Although with the Kalou non-offide, the Anelka pen we would have almost certainly brushed them aside.
"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 18:02
shame joey weren't fit. He would have tore their defence apart - but as you said we were strong enough to beat them on paper at least, but I am concerned about the winning mentality - or lack of it.
At least we are away next weekend
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Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 18:32
You're getting like geordie fans, you two.
Ref this, ref that because you lost. As the coded message poster said, you have your fair share of decisions go your way as well.
It wasn't the ref that made you play cr@p, nor was it him that limited you to just one shot on target.
I wondered how long before you set on Scolari and now you want the russian to dip into his pockets again to try and buy a bit more glory.
What next...taking shirts off at matches and sh@99ing horses?
Ref this, ref that because you lost. As the coded message poster said, you have your fair share of decisions go your way as well.
It wasn't the ref that made you play cr@p, nor was it him that limited you to just one shot on target.
I wondered how long before you set on Scolari and now you want the russian to dip into his pockets again to try and buy a bit more glory.
What next...taking shirts off at matches and sh@99ing horses?
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 18:38
no one is saying the ref made us play crap.... u bin dipper. Read again and it has been said.
you still won't win the title under fat face and u gotta beat west ham yet, before you start gloating.
so if a ref made a decision against your lot, you won't have an opinion on it - you will just accept it!!!
Yeah course you will
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you still won't win the title under fat face and u gotta beat west ham yet, before you start gloating.
so if a ref made a decision against your lot, you won't have an opinion on it - you will just accept it!!!
Yeah course you will
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Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 18:48
Quote:Captain Scarlet
You're getting like geordie fans, you two.
Ref this, ref that because you lost. As the coded message poster said, you have your fair share of decisions go your way as well.
It wasn't the ref that made you play cr@p, nor was it him that limited you to just one shot on target.
I wondered how long before you set on Scolari and now you want the russian to dip into his pockets again to try and buy a bit more glory.
What next...taking shirts off at matches and sh@99ing horses?
Fffinhg hell! You couldn´t make it up!
THE ABSOLUTE KINGS OF "OH WE ARE SO VICTIMISED - MINUTES SILENCE EVERY BLOODY WEEK" saying that we are getting like geordies.
And then he says ·buying more glory" when it took the Everton chairman to bail them out the mire all thoise years ago and plough millions of his money in their club over the decades!
Absolutely unffing believable!!!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 19:15
no one is saying the ref made us play crap.... u bin dipper. Read again and it has been said.
I never said that you said the ref MADE you play crap, chav. You read it again
you still won't win the title under fat face and u gotta beat west ham yet, before you start gloating.
Who knows? We know what we have to do thank you. Done it 18 times before, remember.
so if a ref made a decision against your lot, you won't have an opinion on it - you will just accept it!!!
SO IF??? Remember your penalty at Anfield moron?
THE ABSOLUTE KINGS OF "OH WE ARE SO VICTIMISED - MINUTES SILENCE EVERY BLOODY WEEK" saying that we are getting like geordies.
Wtf are you on about?
Moaning every time you get beat, trying to blame refs, injury's, your manager, outside forces, all just because you think that spending millions warrents winning.
And then he says ·buying more glory" when it took the Everton chairman to bail them out the mire all thoise years ago and plough millions of his money in their club over the decades!
Haha Dixon, I didn't think you'd want to embarras yourself further on this subject after making yourself look a complete tw@t before.
We are all still waiting for you to tell us which players Shankly bought with his millions.
I never said that you said the ref MADE you play crap, chav. You read it again
you still won't win the title under fat face and u gotta beat west ham yet, before you start gloating.
Who knows? We know what we have to do thank you. Done it 18 times before, remember.
so if a ref made a decision against your lot, you won't have an opinion on it - you will just accept it!!!
SO IF??? Remember your penalty at Anfield moron?
THE ABSOLUTE KINGS OF "OH WE ARE SO VICTIMISED - MINUTES SILENCE EVERY BLOODY WEEK" saying that we are getting like geordies.
Wtf are you on about?
Moaning every time you get beat, trying to blame refs, injury's, your manager, outside forces, all just because you think that spending millions warrents winning.
And then he says ·buying more glory" when it took the Everton chairman to bail them out the mire all thoise years ago and plough millions of his money in their club over the decades!
Haha Dixon, I didn't think you'd want to embarras yourself further on this subject after making yourself look a complete tw@t before.
We are all still waiting for you to tell us which players Shankly bought with his millions.
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Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 20:18
Quote:Captain Scarlet
[b]And then he says ·buying more glory" when it took the Everton chairman to bail them out the mire all thoise years ago and plough millions of his money in their club over the decades!
Haha Dixon, I didn't think you'd want to embarras yourself further on this subject after making yourself look a complete tw@t before.
We are all still waiting for you to tell us which players Shankly bought with his millions.
Not just Shankley - we are talking 50 years of Moores involvement in your club - some whilst one was Everton chairman!!!!
And I embarrassed YOU. You weren´t even aware of your own clubs history. Hide your head in shame!
You can go back to your board where all the threads that show you lot up get mysteriuosly deleted so that you can continue seeing the world the way you NEED to see it rather than the reality.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 23:27
And I embarrassed YOU. You weren´t even aware of your own clubs history. Hide your head in shame!
Hahahahahahahahahahahah................hahahahahahahahahahah......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...classic.
The only time I was embarrassed was for you.
Hahahahahahahahahahahah................hahahahahahahahahahah......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...classic.
The only time I was embarrassed was for you.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 23:29
Oh dear!
NURSE!!!
Another bed pan for Capn please!!!!!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
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NURSE!!!
Another bed pan for Capn please!!!!!
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:12:01:23:30:44 by dixon9.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Captain Scarlet (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 23:44
Oh dear indeed.
A chav calling Anfield quiet. Priceless.
Maybe we need a few plastic flags given out.
You couldn't make it up.
A chav calling Anfield quiet.
Priceless.
Maybe we need a few plastic flags given out.
You couldn't make it up.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: Since 66 (IP Logged)
Date: 01/12/2008 23:48
red or white card CS
Wot was u holding up
You lot were bricking it tonite.... you could have built your new stadium in the morning
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Wot was u holding up
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Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2008 09:37
What was priceless was the 3 min protest at the beginning of the game for a convicted criminal.
Priceless because I bet hardly any of them know the facts of the case - they don´t give a @#$%& about Michael Shields - it´s just another excuse to say "OOOooooh! Look at us! We are the best fans in the world aren´t we? Please please look at us!"
Truly vomit inducing!
Merchant bankers!
"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Priceless because I bet hardly any of them know the facts of the case - they don´t give a @#$%& about Michael Shields - it´s just another excuse to say "OOOooooh! Look at us! We are the best fans in the world aren´t we? Please please look at us!"
Truly vomit inducing!
Merchant bankers!
"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: redlyn (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2008 11:07
Happy to see Big Phil had something to moan about. Everyone else is a moaner - but when tables are turned - guess what MOAN, MOAN ...ruining my team... moan moan... Welcome to the English game Phil - enjoy@#$%&refereeing and dont forget to follow up with the compulsory cheap excuses and earn yourself touchline ban while your at it 
I think fans are expecting too much. average teams are getting stronger - look at teams like wigan, bolton, city. these teams that the ability shut you out or even turn you over on a bad day this season. The air of invincibility is gone - it was never going to last forever, so these teams are coming in thinking they can get something. Scapegoating Scolari coz of bad results that were inevitable at some point regardless of manager is even better for us. Throw some uncertainty and lack of faith / turmoil in the air - hope it affects the players as well
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But I think he needs a fair shot and should be judged at the end of the season.
I think fans are expecting too much. average teams are getting stronger - look at teams like wigan, bolton, city. these teams that the ability shut you out or even turn you over on a bad day this season. The air of invincibility is gone - it was never going to last forever, so these teams are coming in thinking they can get something. Scapegoating Scolari coz of bad results that were inevitable at some point regardless of manager is even better for us. Throw some uncertainty and lack of faith / turmoil in the air - hope it affects the players as well
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But I think he needs a fair shot and should be judged at the end of the season.
Re: BIG Phil Can't Cut the Mustard!!!
Posted by: dixon9 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/12/2008 14:56
Agree with you totally re other teams being so much stronger.
I´m actually enjoying this season more because of it.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
I´m actually enjoying this season more because of it.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.