Winning the FA Cup


By Frank Hoiwould
November 4 2022

Here we go, Bonfire night, FA Cup 1st Round. A trip up the M6 beckons to the delights of Carlisle. Is it 8 games to the semi-final and Wembley? Who knows, the way the competition has been mucked around in recent years you can't tell.

I don't think the FA Cup,is special anymore. In fact, if you stopped it after the second round I wouldn't mind. I like the non-League clubs being involved, but once the Premier League teams get in the mix it becomes pointless. Yes, we beat Watford a few seasons back, then a club in the top flight. But Man Utd and Spurs have trounced us, and the dosh is nowhere near as bailable as promotion. Getting knocked out makes me indifferent.

I know people will say 'What about beating Everton at Goodson?' That was over 20 years ago, in that time football has changed for the worse. Top clubs field much weakened teams in the competition. If we came up against Arsenal or Man City they would send their kids out. In the past there was the allure of getting on the telly, but football on TV is everywhere. It's harder not to watch it. Ifollow means that the novelty of having Rovers in your front room doesn't quite have the same fission of excitement. I suspect, even if we got to Wembley, greater prominence would be given to a Premier League match the same weekend.

The FA Cup now represents a massive dollop of nostalgia. It's like watching an old episode of Dad's Army. Reassuring, sometimes entertaining, but no longer relevant. Are people really bothered by what happens in Carlsile tomorrow? Swindon the following Saturday is more important. If we beat Carlisle we have another chance to play against teams that are equal, before the tedium of the 3rd round. Watching the draw, hoping we'll get a 'big team', only to discover its Peterborough again. 

Yet, the romantics, the people who dream, will still watch. They'll say that it represents everything good. They"ll point to Hereford United's defeat of Newcastle, that Chesterfield team that made it to the semis, or even us beating Southampton 20 years or so agai. They might even dream that this tear, with a fair wind, a dodgy ref and an injury crises at Liverpool/Everton/Man Utd, etc, we might just win it. God love them, but I reckon this competition won't be around for very much longer. 

Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Total Tranmere (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 11:44

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Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 14:42

The FA Cup, to me, has always been special and long may this historic and renowned knockout competition continue..As for all the romance and nostalgia that we associate with it - I love it!

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 15:14

Love the FA Cup draws too, no matter if it is the 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round etc or even the 4th qualifying round draw ( when we were in the NL )..the anticipation of who will come out of the hat, will it be a minnow? will it be a local rival? will it be a big club? will it be home or away? will it be Perterborough? will it be a crappy away draw? will it be a money-spinner? will it be on TV? can we progress?..i luv all that..stiil a big kid at heart with the thrill and excitement of it all...plus the fact it can be a welcome break especially if the league season has become tedious and monotonous and we are going nowhere.



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Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 16:05

As Bill Shankly once famously quoted, ' The league is your bread and butter.'..i think we all agree with that,,,but there is nothing wrong with having a nice bit of fruity, tasty jam on top of it, that jam being the FA Cup.

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Aldosmuzzy (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 16:41

Not sure what relevance winning the Cup has to do with Tranmere but, overall, in recent years it’s been good to us, and for us. Not sure if that’ll be the case this season! Although, with tomorrow in mind, anyone in L2 can beat anyone else in L2.

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hong kong rover
As Bill Shankly once famously quoted, ' The league is your bread and butter.'..i think we all agree with that,,,but there is nothing wrong with having a nice bit of fruity, tasty jam on top of it, that jam being the FA Cup.

Spot on. Some people seem to think it’s a binary choice of one or the other when, in reality, you can have both without one adversely affecting the other. Indeed nowadays, where serious fixture backlogs (at our level) are very much the exception, a run to the 4th or 5th round for clubs at our level will more often galvanise their league campaign rather than disrupt it.

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 16:47

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Aldosmuzzy
Not sure what relevance winning the Cup has to do with Tranmere but, overall, in recent years it’s been good to us, and for us. Not sure if that’ll be the case this season! Although, with tomorrow in mind, anyone in L2 can beat anyone else in L2.
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hong kong rover
As Bill Shankly once famously quoted, ' The league is your bread and butter.'..i think we all agree with that,,,but there is nothing wrong with having a nice bit of fruity, tasty jam on top of it, that jam being the FA Cup.

Spot on. Some people seem to think it’s a binary choice of one or the other when, in reality, you can have both without one adversely affecting the other. Indeed nowadays, where serious fixture backlogs (at our level) are very much the exception, a run to the 4th or 5th round for clubs at our level will more often galvanise their league campaign rather than disrupt it.

+1

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Zint (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 17:21

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hong kong rover
As Bill Shankly once famously quoted, ' The league is your bread and butter.'..i think we all agree with that,,,but there is nothing wrong with having a nice bit of fruity, tasty jam on top of it, that jam being the FA Cup.
At that point the FA Cup was a more prestigious competition, and one that had alluded Liverpool FC. When Liverpool won (in 1965?) it was seen as a massive achievement.

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: PrentonPup (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 17:28

Think we'll lose tomorrow

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: hong kong rover (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 18:43

Always loved that Tommy Cooper quip when after a Royal Variety Performance, he met the Queen...Cooper said to Her Majesty, ' Do you mind if i ask you a question ma'am?' The Queen replied, 'No, not at all,' Cooper then asked her ' Do you like football?' She answered, 'Not particularly, no.' Tommy then replied 'Can i have your cup final ticket then?'.....Brilliant, Genius!

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Loyden1 (IP Logged)
Date: 04/11/2022 22:46

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PrentonPup
Think we'll lose tomorrow
wow did you dream that up all on your own .if we do we will all say prenton pup has a crystal ball ,wally🙈

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Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: bheadlad (IP Logged)
Date: 05/11/2022 07:00

Not a chance and our odds are probably 5000:1

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Loyden1 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/11/2022 15:18

Nice to see torquay on tele ,our old mark ellis playing for them ,torquay used to be ist fixture id look out for ,so i could make a weekend away,my ist visit 1968🙈

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Elvis (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2022 19:22

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Great book. Monkey Tonks is a top keeper.

J. L Carr's A Month in The Country is also a great read.

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Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Phil65 (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2022 19:34

Talking of FA Cup books, I remember reading a second hand book as a youngster, can’t remember the title and supposedly fiction, but heavily based on WBA beating Everton in the 1968 FA cup final. Can’t for the life of me find the book on-line. Any suggestions.

Re: Winning the FA Cup
Posted by: Elvis (IP Logged)
Date: 08/11/2022 19:47

I have a couple WBA poker friends, a few years back there was a Brummie poker meet-up that I was invited to. I attended the private game, a quite well known millionaire Irish poker broad was there, it was totally game on for me, and I was supposed to go back to her hotel - alas, I was so drunk, I woke up with a dead phone, no car keys on a deckchair in a maisonette bin cupboard. She tried waking me, but I was gone. I had been playing solid every night for 6 months, Macnhester, Liverpool, London, Stoke, Blackpool, Nottingham. I guess I was tired. I was still up on the night though. No idea about the book



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Re: Winning the FA Cup
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Date: 08/11/2022 19:57


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