The Problem With Roy

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Frank Rijkaard has left Gala , Turkey! Just announced 20 minutes ago. Could be only chance we have to get 1st class replacement for the Dodo!

I agree with the sentiment above. I was actually optimistic before the derby, with the team we had I thought we would have taken the game to Everton, but as usual it was a lackluster performance.

Roy needs to go, he has the look of a man who knows he's out of his depth, we had some bad perfomances last year, but we also had some good or even fantastic ones. At least Rafa had us playing with a high tempo under Roy it seems we only start playing once we've gone a goal down.

To hear Roy saying last Sunday was our best performance of the season was embarrasing.

I don't want him to have 40m at his disposal god knows who he will buy, I mean Poulsen?!?!? Give me a break! And why oh why did he get rid of Aquilani - they guy was hardly given a chance, they few times he played towards the end of last season he looked pretty useful, certainly no worse than we have now.

I never want Liverpool to lose but part of me think that maybe a defeat on thursday would be best for the club because hopefully that will mean Roy will be on his way and we can get a manager in of Liverpool FC class.

Agree 100%. I backed Rafa to the end. I thought he needed time. He was a good manager. I was not surprised by his sacking but still thought given more time he may have taken us back to at least 2nd place and into Champ league.

Roy is simply out of his depth. I was a bit surprised he was given the role. But then he brought in Cole and we played like world beaters against some romainian team or whoever in the Europa. I was fooled by this and got carried away with what the media was saying about Roy. But after 4 league games you could tell he has not got a clue. I don't think even the players want to play for him anymore. He has already lost them. They need a man they can respect and trust. Someone who can motivate them again.

Roy will have to go. It is simply a matter of time. Not IF but instead it is a WHEN. It is not a maybe he will or maybe he won't. It is better we lose to Napoli and he is sacked.

Roy please do the right thing and walk yourself. I know it will knock your reputation and it is a hard thing to do. But at least you will be remembered as the guy who held up his hands and had enough respect for the fans to admit you can't do this job. The liverpool fans will remember you fondly as the guy who kept Torres and Gerrard at the club.

Now time for Dalglish, O'Neill, Hiddink or Rijkaard to build on that!

HAS ANY ONE TAKEN LOOK AT AVRAM GRANT?... PERFECT MAN OUT THERE WITH A REALLY GOOD TRACK RECORD.

Hodgson must go - he seems lost at which formation & tatics to play - we defend far too deep & dont press the ball - i cant work out what his famous tatics are?? - If he get money to spend he'll buy Charlton Cole - Needs to be replaced by Daglish, Hiddink or Hoddle - NOT O'Neil or Rickard.

Just because they were wrong about Roy, that does not mean that they were wrong about Rafa. Benitez's time had come and he was rightly moved on, but Hodgson should have never been handed the job in the first place, much less be given more time to continue aimlessly digging in the massive hole that he has created at Anfield.

Riijkaard was my first choice in the summer and now he is available on a free we should grab him up quickly, instead of going for the mediocre option of O'Neill just to appease the media who want to see British maangers at the top - Hodgson has blown it for all of them!

The problem with Roy is he does not want to play football the way we want to see football played. His style of football does not suit what we as fans persieve to be of a quality we expect from a Liverpool football team. Lets not forget, his time in the EPL has mostly been spent fighting relegation, not winning trophies. I suppose more importantly, the team does not appear to believe he is either upto the task of taking liverpool forward or he will be around long enough to do anything. Lastly, Roy came with out any backroom staff, so does that mean he does not expect to last long anyway?

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Jay Wright
Just because they were wrong about Roy, that does not mean that they were wrong about Rafa. Benitez's time had come and he was rightly moved on, but Hodgson should have never been handed the job in the first place, much less be given more time to continue aimlessly digging in the massive hole that he has created at Anfield.
Riijkaard was my first choice in the summer and now he is available on a free we should grab him up quickly, instead of going for the mediocre option of O'Neill just to appease the media who want to see British maangers at the top - Hodgson has blown it for all of them!

But in many, many fans eyes they were wrong about Rafa. I would have loved to see a Rafa team if he'd had a decent amount of money to spend instead of the continual sell to buy policy, which only allowed him to upgrade players slowly, and didn't allow for keeping good squad players.

27 million net under the tumours over 7 transfer windows shows what a bloody good manager he was by getting us in to the CL 5 out of 6 seasons.


Never, ever MON for me, can't stand the man and the one member of the wine club we've got now has been enough for a lifetime for me. Woys pride in getting the LMA award last years shows how skewed that lot are. He got to a Europa League final, that's it, the stupid old nobody couldn't even win that. Ancelloti should have gotten that LMA award whether Chelsea had the money or not, he got his club a double for the first time in their history. Whose turn will the wine club decide it is this season? Horrible Allardyce because he's said he could manage a top class club?

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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly

They were wrong about Roy and Wrong about Rafa.Whoever comes in will need time and money to rebuild the team, so how long do we give them? Rafa was always hampered,first by that clown Parry, then later by the two american clowns and their muppet purslow.Back the man,give him the players he wants instead of having him trawl through the basement bargains.Yes he made mistakes, but all managers make them, Wenger, Fregie, mourinho!Rafa was never backed fully.He hed BArry firstad to sell to buy.I keep hearing about Crouch,Belamy, Alonso, but the truth is Belamy was problematic, crouch wanted to go not the other way round, Alonso had a great last season with us, but the ones before were mediocre. Keane was a parry signing. Rafa stipulated Barry first then Keane but not at that price!!Alves we could have got for peanuts but parry fluffed that one. Plus, the money Rafa was given was used to rebuild the whole of LFC that included bringing in some kids. He did give them chances unlike what the press say. Stop believing the british press! As for the call for Rykard, please, other than his spell for barca, what has he done? Even there he got sacked because they realised he was not good enough. Wake up and smell the coffee. We should sack Uncle Woy, let the king manage in the interim and then start negotiating getting Rafa back! End of! The man has a vision unlike the bear that is Roy, just needs to be backed. He made us over achieve with a limited budget. That is the calibre of the man. I know I will be slaughtered for my opinion but I never wanted him to be sacked- whether by mutual consent or otherwise. One bad season does not back a great manager poor! We did not give him a fair crack of the whip always hampering him with minimal budget. Back the man and you will see. Within one year we will be back as apposed to 3-5 years to rebuild a so called@#$%&team with 12 internationals before Roy made a hash of it.

I doubt you'll be slaughtered by anyone on this board mate, the few that we are were all very pro Rafa.

Agree totally with ALL of your post.

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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly

Rijkaard (sp?) just been sacked by Gala' and now bookies favourite for Liverpool job?!
To me the answer is obvious. Get Kenny in, he holds the fort 'til Rafa has done a respectable couple of seasons at Inter and then returns.
IF the rumours about a couple of 'senior' Liverpool players briefing against Rafa are true, at least one will be finished by the time Rafa returned.
I still think he feels he has unfinished business at Anfield and I for one would welcome him back to see if he could do the job with some decent financial backing.

I'd be made if Rafa comes "home" and we give him a decent war chest that he deserves(if he does return). Regardless of what the Brit press might have some 'fans' believing otherwise, Rafa DID make LFC overachieve during his watch!!