N.E.S.V, Just Trust The KOP
By John Christie
November 22 2010
At Liverpool we take great pride in the way we support our club. Not for us the knee-jerk, gnashing of teeth by fans fed and led by the media. We be lone spirits, we know what is best for our club. We trust our own people every day of the week to sly sports or the Daily Fail.
No one can tell us how to support our club because no one knows better than us. This is what infuriates and alienates so many journalists. They have no control over our real fans, they can’t press our buttons. Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Moran, Dalglish, Evans, Benitez even Houllier, were our people, people we trusted, people who were appointed in the Liverpool Way. These men were backed by the KOP. These men were given every chance as we knew they were the right people at the right time.
So how do we equate the treatment of Roy Hodgson? Are we not now just another football mob bating for the manager’s head? No we are not. Hodgson has some influential friends in the media, the ones who called us stupid to back Rafa, and call us stupid now for not backing Roy.
Alls I ask is for our new owners, NESV, to trust what the fans are telling them. Hodgson is not one of our people! Pick your man and we will trust you, but trust us first.
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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly
Hodgson has been here five minutes and you want to change him. As you say, the Liverpool way is to support the manager until they prove that they are not up to the job. I didn't particularly like Roy Evens and don't think he should have got the job, and I think Souness changed too much too quickly and was quite arrogant, which served him well as a player, but not as a manager, but they were the Liverpool managers and so had my backing as every Liverpool manager should have.
The team are improving, results are starting to happen, and there are plans being put in place for the long term. But that should all be put in jeopardy because 'we' don't think he is the right man. The fan revolution in trying get rid of the previous owners has given some the idea that we have a big say in things, which we don't, and neither should we.
Is the change because Hodgson is not a media maverick like Benitez, and actually had the backing of the media? ;-) 'If they think he was the right chap for the job, surely he can't be right'. ;-) lol
NORWAY
For the first time in living memory we appointed someone whose career record, win percentage and dismal away form was far and away more inferior to the previous managers record. In the past we've always appointed someone who, at the time, was the best man to take us forward, even when it hasn't worked out that way. That principle was always there. Not with Hodgson though.
Hodgson has no class whatsoever either on or off the pitch, the man is a carbuncle on our club, and I hope when the media darling has left we never mention him again. Nice man? You must be fuuucking joking.
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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly
Hodgson is a good man - time will tell if he has what it takes.
P.S. Born and bred Scouse - 4th Generation shareholder (pre-Hicks and Gillett) NOT from Norway or South Africa. Hahaha.
Quote:rolando
IMO hodgoson will be given till the end of the season and if we dont get CL then he will be let go. i think this is fair as we cannot judge him on the back of a few games, after all Rafa and Houlier started poorly. In the summer we should go for a manager with a good overall record and not Kenny dalgliesh. remember what happened with Shearer!!
Do you really believe Roy could get 4th? If not, isn't it better to get someone in who can? Would you still wait until the summer if it meant our best players in Reina and Torres would leave? Do you think his defensive thinking will change during the season, or will he continue his midtable-team tactics? Do you think he will stop sucking up to Fergie and the FA? Do you trust him to sign good players, when you see what he has already brought in? Do you think he will stop slagging off the fans?
To many questions! Pack your bags now, you are not up to the job.
Quote:Scouse Billy
Lol, just as well the board of LFC couldn't give a @#$%& what you write here.
Hodgson is a good man - time will tell if he has what it takes.
P.S. Born and bred Scouse - 4th Generation shareholder (pre-Hicks and Gillett) NOT from Norway or South Africa. Hahaha.
Why the need for the PS? I'm also a born and bred Scouser and have served my time in all parts of the ground since the late 60's, so piiiss off with your 4th generation share holder @#$%&.
You are also wrong, imo, with your Hodgson is a good man. Hodgson can't see past himself and will blame anything or anyone for his failures. No guts, no class, no persona. The man is an utter tiiit.
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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly
Given the situation RH has had to deal with since arriving, I say he has done well.
I've followed his career since he was the Swiss manager - most people would agree he is a man of integrity and a true football man. You seem to know better. I wonder hopw and in what capacity. Calling yourself a militant internet terrorist seems a little fanciful perhaps the mark of a fantacist even

I think that too many Liverpool fans have got too big for their boots and think that they have a god given right to shout and scream their way to success! SOS and a bunch of classles scallies... We have not been a one of the prems big boys for years, yes Rafa gave us a bit of pride then he lost the plot...he was just as much to blame as the Yanks!
Get off Roys back because you because I feel the only person that could come in and take over should be Jose M, or even Ancelloti would be good!
Have some class fans, and stop screaming like a bunch of spoilt kids who cant get their own way..
A manager needs time to buy the players he wants and moulds the team to the way he wants them to play, he should at least be allowed to make a go of it. If he fails then so be it, but changing just because you don't like him or that he has friends in the media or whatever is pointless. It is whether he does the job and get results.
Do we want to go down the Newcastle route, 13 managers in 20 years? Part of our strength through the years has been stability, at least as far as the manager is concerned, until he proves that he can't do the job we should get behind him.
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So we disagree - so what?
Given the situation RH has had to deal with since arriving, I say he has done well.
I've followed his career since he was the Swiss manager - most people would agree he is a man of integrity and a true football man. You seem to know better. I wonder hopw and in what capacity. Calling yourself a militant internet terrorist seems a little fanciful perhaps the mark of a fantacist even
Sorry but you are no fecking Reds fan, that is quite obvious. If you want to wind up you'll have to do a bit of research. Any REAL Red would know why I call myself a militant internet terrorist.
Go away and take that tiiit with you.
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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly
Quote:Maxamill
Give the man a break will you, have some humility! Who the hell wouold replace him? Do you think kenny would do any better? what if he got the job and failed, would we just swap him for someone else? we could turn into Newcastle with all of this manager changing! Just have some patience and let Roy have a go! I think its disgusting that people are on his back like this...
You can think it's disgusting all you like, personally I put the club first not some never was and never will be a good manager. The longer he stays the worse it will get and God forbid the idiot is given money to spend. Frightening. Kenny would do a great job till the summer and someone younger comes in. Even if he fails no-one would deride him because .....HE'S ONE OF US...ffs.
I think that too many Liverpool fans have got too big for their boots and think that they have a god given right to shout and scream their way to success! SOS and a bunch of classles scallies... We have not been a one of the prems big boys for years, yes Rafa gave us a bit of pride then he lost the plot...he was just as much to blame as the Yanks!
No he wasn't, and how disrespectful is that to put him on a par with the two cancers? Not too big for my boots at all. I've been brought up to expect the best we can get, why should I change my expectation. Hodgson was not the best available and if that @#$%& Purslow thought Hodgson was the man for the job it's obvious why he never before had any power at a football club. We have always been a successful club, we exist to win trophies and though we haven't won a title for a long time, we have carried on winning trophies.
Get off Roys back because you because I feel the only person that could come in and take over should be Jose M, or even Ancelloti would be good!
Have some class fans, and stop screaming like a bunch of spoilt kids who cant get their own way..
No way do we want Mourhino, he's not a builder, he's a spender. I'll scream all I want, you eff off with your defeatist attitude, just like our manager.
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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly
you can see it is his actions and hear it when he talks, its a job to him. it was much more than that to the other liverpool managers. billy i was born and bred within the sound of the old kop roar.
Quote:"RedsQuote:Maxamill
Give the man a break will you, have some humility! Who the hell wouold replace him? Do you think kenny would do any better? what if he got the job and failed, would we just swap him for someone else? we could turn into Newcastle with all of this manager changing! Just have some patience and let Roy have a go! I think its disgusting that people are on his back like this...
"Kenny would do a great job till the summer and someone younger comes in. Even if he fails no-one would deride him because .....HE'S ONE OF US...ffs.[/color]"
You should be ashamed of yoursefl Reds, saying you would rather have Kenny even if he fails..what is your mentality.
"No way do we want Mourhino, he's not a builder, he's a spender. I'll scream all I want, you eff off with your defeatist attitude, just like our manager[/color].
I think that the majority of the reds would have Jose, but then again the majority ignored how embarrassing Rafas rants were last year...
I feel sorry for some of the fans who just are so fickle
Kenny could not possibly do worse than this idiot, but yes, if we are going to fail I'd rather it was with one of our own.
Rafa didn't rant at all, and every last word he said in his FACTS PC was the truth. I am proud that he was manager of our club and will always regard him as a legend. He never embarrassed me, ever, plus he gave us some of the greatest nights we've had in the last 20 years.
If you want embarrassment look at the clown we have at Liverpool at the moment. Now that is embarrassing, on and off the pitch.
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“Liverpool Football club exists not to make money, it exists to win trophies and be a source of pride for its supporters. It serves no other purpose.”. Bill Shankly
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People need to stop reacting emotionally and just look at the bare facts: Hodgson has not shown the positive tactics or ability to motivate the players away, has 5 points from a possible 21 away from Anfield and 2 came from an 87th minute goal!
I for one am sick off all this ranting!!
I am not happy with Roy's results or performances to the media but he has a difficult job, very difficult and he inherited a demoralised squad. I was gutted Kenny didnt get the job, but you can see where the logic was, the board just didnt want to risk Kenny's reputation being tarnished if he failed. And I bet most felt Roy was not a bad choice considering the circumstances..
So why cant we just back him while he is here? why cant we let him learn from his mistakes? and why cant the payers take some of the blame..
But one thing I will stand by is the amount of fans screaming for his blood are out of order.
Who the hell is available to take over Liverpool FC? give me a manager? and dont say Caragher player manager or kenny either? It is too risky to keep swapping and changing and I think the fans are making the situation worse..
I felt last year if SOS put as much effort into rallying the fans to support the team as they did scream in the streets then we might have had a better season..
we have the players to win a cup now and we can add to the team in january but all we get is pesimism. thats what really gets me no fighting talk.
